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Joe Gresham - 12/28/00 20:15:29
Ethnicity: Confederate
Country: C.S.A.
State: Kentucky
Comments:
Make whatever assumption as to my "ethnicity"...you might be surprised. Your favorite weapon is to call someone else racist, while it is you, that are the racists. This site is nothing less than than a hate siteCould you for one minute imagine a naaWp? or a Congressional WHITE Caucus? How about a Miss WHITE America pageant, or a White history month? Let me set the record straight, You can't see anyone without first seeing their color...that's RACIST. Southern people have since the earliest settlers, co-existed in harmony, until the yankee trash agitators, came in and stirred certain elements up. Southerners of all colors have been a separate and distinct people, with civility, decency and mutual respect...I know that is not the "distorted facts" that you wish to advance but it is the truth. I guess I'm wasting my breath but YOU ARE DEAD WRONG,SIR! Why is it "racist" to respect and revere white ancestors, and it's not to do the same for black ancestors? You want it both ways....You are a cancer on humanity...and I for one will not roll over, attack my heritage...and you're attacking me and I will fight back! If you don't like Dixie, "Go North, Dumb man!"


Sonny Leger - 12/27/00 14:58:05
My Email:RebelSonny@yahoo.com
Ethnicity: Southerner
Country: CSA
State: Florida
How did you find our page?: Email
Comments:
You have to be one of the most ignorant people I have seen on the net yet.Your site is full of socialist propaganda.It is good that you acknowledge thAt fought for the Confederacy.but it was not a handful as you insist.It was approximately 90,000.10 perce t of all slave holders were black.It is funny thing with the NAACP,most of them claim to be Muslim,funny thing is in most parts of the world Muslims still practice slavery.You are a BIGOT pure and simple.YOu are a bigot in a worse way.Because you cry raci m but you are a racist.And that dumbass is hypocritical.It was not the Southerners whom enslaved blacks.It was your fellow brothers as you like to call them.It was your own people whom sold each other into slavery.And slavery is still practiced there.Inst ad of messing with Southern heritage,why don't you go free your oppressed brothers in Africa.For you to bad mouth the flag you are doing a grave disservice to the blacks who fought for the Confederacy.As far as outlawing the flag.You can start by banning nd removing my flag that flies on my property.You stated that people whom fly the flag should be treated harshly.I tell you what come treat me harshly.Come try to take my flag down I got something for ya. Southern Pride PowerWood


SRE - 12/27/00 13:48:24
My Email:sere@prodigy.net
Comments:
I forgot to include my e-mail addy in previous post. The rest of your questions are none of your business, you BIGOT. One more thought....If the NAACP would spend as much time, money and energy to the abolition of slavery in modern day Africa as they do in their attempts to spread hate for all things Southern, think how much good this organization could do. SRE


SRE - 12/27/00 13:23:48
Comments:
You, sir, are the most bigoted, uninformed, ignorant form of socialist. I cannot understand why people like you cannot leave the battleflag and other aspects of Southron culture alone. If you don't like us, ignore us. We aren't trying to take anything rom you. We abhore slavery as much as you probably do and virtually no Southerner would ever wish it to return. Your tolerance for the African American culture is commendable. Your IN-tolerance for the rest of the Southern culture is deplorable. SRE


Trudell - 12/27/00 05:06:26
My Email:lewis_lindsay@hotmail.com
Ethnicity: what the hell does it matter
State: NC
How did you find our page?: email
Comments:
I'm sick of people putting down the South and complaining about how their ancestors were slaves. I'm sick of the KKK using the Rebel Flag(also uses the American Flag). I'm sick of the NAACP (National Assoc. of Always Complaining People) and its hate. Y s, that is what they are...and hate group. I'm sick of people saying "Your Heritage is My Slavery". The hell it is your slavery. Half the people don't know what work is so how do you even have a clue what slavery is all about. I will continue to honor all 6 of my ancestors that died in the War of Northern Aggression. Instead of complaining that my ancestors were slaves why don't you do something constructive for a change and honor the blacks that fought in the war. That's an idea for you, huh? I'm b ing blunt and frankly I don't give a damn what you think because I'm sick of all the crap that the South has dealt with. Enough is enough and 2001 is the year that things are going to change.


Mick - 12/27/00 02:47:42
My Email:mh27@highlanders.net
Ethnicity: Irish/Southern
Country: Occupied C.S.
State: Alabama
How did you find our page?: Link
Comments:
Hello All, I find this site quite interesting. I can see that the forces that have us southerners under occupation (black and white southerners) have really done a good job in keeping our two races at each others throats over this issue. Let me ask anyone who wants to listen, why in the 1960's when integration was forced on us here in Alabama (much against the will of blacks as well as whites) did it get so much airplay when our governer "stood in the door" and peacefully moved when final y he was asked, instead of ordered by federalised troops to move. ten years later in the happy (regular)U.S.A. in Boston, where they hated slavery, and all things that were associated with the south, why didn't they just peacefully accept forced bussing, hy did they riot? You see brethren, I'm southern, I know that slavery was abbhorent. It was a concept that was brought from the old world to the new. It had to go. I'm glad it did, however, I for one know as I have studied the point to long that blacks fought to preserve t e Confederacy as well as they did the union, not to preserve slavery, slavery was strong in the U.S. as much as in the C.S. The U.S. wants the south divided, they have for years. They know if we (blacks and whites) will love one another, get along like we ought to, that the south will once again become strong and probably take back our rightful nation. That is a nation of black and white (and all other colours). The U.S. government doesn't want that. As Honest Abe said when asked "why not let the south just go?" he said, "Who would pay for the government. Black and white brethren, let us not be fooled any longer by the oppressors of the southern nation. Let's work out our problems and move forward in good faith with one another. We all know that any one southerner (black or white) is better than ten yankee , we can out work, out fight and I'd dern near say out "anything" that they can do. God Bless, Mick P.S. a good read on Black Confederates can be found at, www.37thtexas.org/html/BlkHist.html open your minds and you may see what I'm saying a little better.


Claude Sinclair - 12/27/00 02:17:05
My Email:clsinclair@infoave.net
Ethnicity: American 1/8 Cherokee 7/8 white
Country: USA
State: Beautiful SC
Comments:
Sorry to differ from your opinion. Of my 40+ ancestors that I have traced that fought in the War Between The States, none owned Slaves. I have a book written by a black Howard University on Black Slave owners. Published by USC. African American Slave y can be traced to West African where in some parts, it is still practice. Doesn't make it right but the whole history should be presented. I fly a Confederate Flag and am anti racist. All you need to do is ask my friends, white and black. I do fam ly history and I am proud of my heritage.


Grinch - 12/27/00 00:34:57
My URL:http://www.southern_outlaw.homestead.com/index.html
My Email:southern_outlaw@worldmailer.com
Ethnicity: Southern
Country: CSA
State: Occupied Georgia
How did you find our page?: Bigot alert
Comments:
SOUTHERN PRIDE! Well just what we need yet another hate filled site cluttering up the net. I put this site up thier with that of the naacp, kkk, nazis and the rest of the hate mongers on the net. Spread your hate and lies like the virus it is, it does no healing but only angers. Yall keep attacking our heritage, commiting cultural genocide against the South with you unionist lies and propaganda. The Southern people will eventually quit being so c vilised and ram your hate down your throats. The cause for a free and independent South is growing day by day and your hate tactics are helping our cause. DEO VINDICE! FOR A FREE SOUTH! Grinch Southern Cross MC http://www.southern_outlaw.homestead.com/biker.html


Clay S. - 12/26/00 23:55:41
My Email:RebelPride1861@aol.com
Ethnicity: Southern
Country: Confederacy
State: Occupied Texas
How did you find our page?: Email
Comments:
I beleive that our great Confederate flag is in no way a racist symbol or a reminder of slavery. This is especially true seeing that I am in NO WAY a racist person. True, it can be looked upon in this way....but this is only a result from ignorance of hi tory. Please dont get me wrong....ignorance of certain time eras in history are encouraged by our government. I noticed that you said, that anyone flying the Confederate flag should be treated like a overseer, slave holder, etc. By this statement I gue s you mean that it should be ripped down and forever banded from the view of the world. Well sir, I am flying a Confederate flag as we speak.....and if anyone came upon MY PROPERTY to take it or harrass me about it....the consequences would not be in the r favor. This is not a threat to anyone.....but a warning to those who think that I'm alone in my stand. Thousands....dare say millions feel just like me...some wont admit it publicly.....but others like myself do. Although many people dont beleive us, we dont want violence (the majority of us) and we only want like our great former Confederate President once said "...to be left alone." Our proud Confederate heritage has been ripped, twisted, replaced, and misrepresented since Reconstruction. I urge e ch of you that see this to think long and hard about YOUR ancestors....be it North or South. Be proud of their bravery. I assure you that once you grow proud of your ancestors.....you will know what I am talkin about. I remain, Loyal to the Cause, C.S.


Johnny Reb - 12/26/00 23:48:10
My Email:CSA is here to stay@Southern Borders
Ethnicity: Confederate American
Country: CSA/USA
State: SC
How did you find our page?: email
Comments:
This must be one of those web sites that informed people speak of that should be filtered due to its false content. Spreading this kind of hate and deceit against the Confederacy, it's Flag and true Heritage displays lack of courage, self esteem and appar nt education. You are spreading ignorance that is self evident with your piss poor ethical mistruths. I certainly hope that maintaining this web page is only part time for you because you are trying to sell an item that is cheap, unworthy and of no use to anyone that can read for its true value. GET A JOB!!!


Allen - 12/26/00 23:15:05
My Email:Tlk01@msn.com
Ethnicity: white
Country: US
State: SC
Comments:
Why dont you get your head out your ass! Sure some asshole use my flag for their jackass organizations,but people like me who are raised in the south and respect the true meaning of this flag have nothing to do with these jackass's.I dont know if your fro the southern or northen state but I hope you love your heritage as much as I love and respect mine. People like you have no understanding of how a true southern person feels and never will. So once again get your head out your ass and learn about the tru suothern person before you want to take my flag. Thank you & God bless the CSA, Allen


- 12/26/00 17:32:08
My URL:Don't have one
Ethnicity: White, Black, Indian, English, Irish, French, Northerner, Southerner (I'm sure I'm leaving out something)
Country: The "United" States of America
State: one of the 50
How did you find our page?: providence
Comments:
If you plant a seed of Hate, what will grow from it? -Hate. There are elements of hate on both sides of this issue.


Geoffrey Pope - 12/26/00 15:38:40
My Email:phanloan@earthlink.net
Ethnicity: W. European (white)
Country: USA
State: New York
Comments:
I'm of "mixed" ancestry (Mom a Pittsburgher, Dad from rural Florida). I have zero sympathy for white supremacy, Jim Crow, racial or religious bigotry. I send my children -- one of whom is white (biological) and the other Asian (adopted from Vietnam) to eavily (more than half, if you count white Hispanics as "minority") schools -- by choice. In younger days I worked in antiwar, civil rights, and left-of-center groups, and we teach our kids that hatred, or feelings of superiority or inferiority based on kin color or where your ancestors came from is "the stupidest thing se can think of." All that said, I think your efforts against the Confederate flag are wildly misguided. The reason is that the sin of racism, and the oppression of black people, was NATIONWIDE, North and South, in the 19th century. The South fought, perhaps, to maintain slavery not, I think, in perpetuity, but for a time -- but the North emphatically did N T fight ao abolish slavery, much less to admit blacks to a position of equality. You have to judge people in the context of the time in which they lived: the North had profited enormously from the slave trade, had gotten rid of slavery mostly on pragmat c grounds, and was living (thanks to the tariff system etc.) in large measure at the expense of the South (which is to say that the North, even those parts of it that did not still have slavery, was benefiting from Southern slavery indirectly). Then, hyp crites that they were, they (the Northerners) used the slavery issue to demonize the white Southerners, because the latter were tiring of the cash flow running from South to North. Lincoln was an avowed, and indeed a virulent, white supremacist (he wante to "colonize" which is to say DEPORT blacks), and Northern states passed laws barring freed blacks from settling within their borders. Emancipation was a last-ditch war measure, largely to keep England and France from recognizing the Confederacy. And, hile it may have been asserted in a wrongful cause, on the Constitutional issues, the South was correct. What would better have happened (however painful it is to say it) is that the South should have been permitted to secede, and slavery should have bee phased out there, over a couple of decades, with the blacks educated and trained in preparation for freedom. Not for a minute do I say that that would have been a perfect solution, but it would have been and evil lesser than the South being invaded, fla tened, with hundreds of thousands on both sides being killed and many more maimed and the South (which was and is home to a big part of black America) not consigned to a still-continuing secondary economic position (black and white alike). And also, the great majority of whites fought for the Confederacy for reasons other than preserving slavery. And they fought very bravely, and it is no crime to honor them. Attacking Confederate symbols suggests letting Northern whites off the hook, and buying into the Northern myths that the South was bad, the North good, and that liberating blacks (rather thank subjugating the South for economic reasons) was why the war was really fought. Also, the "Stars and Stripes" flew over slave ships, slave states, and Jim Crow America and can likewise be deemed a "flag of slavery." And finally, slavery endures in roughly a score of countries TODAY, including Mauritius and several black African stat s, and if we hate slavery, maybe we should attack the display of those flags. If a recent immigrant from Africa wants to display his country's flag, and that African country is one in which there is slavery (or the oppression of one African ethnic group y others) he can (in my view) fly it if he loves it IN SPITE OF its shortcomings and wrongs. That's how I feel about my Dixie "half" (I have lived about 45 of my 50 years in the North): I love it IN SPITE OF the racial history. Remember too that Malcolm X, before his more serious entry into Islam made him more enlightened, was a racist who hate all white people, said we were the devil. If I see a black kid wearing a Spike Lee-inspired "X" hat, am I not being short-sighted if I get on his case because Malcolm, for a time, hated white people? It's the same, I think, with Confederate symbols. Respectfully, y'all got bigger fish to fry. With best wishes.


- 12/26/00 12:54:10
My Email:starmom2000
Ethnicity: What does it matter???
Country: USA
State: Md
How did you find our page?: Email
Comments:
I have lived in Maryland all my life, & it is known as the FREE STATE-- because it was in between the North & the South--- BUT , there were slaves here abundantly. Now, I never believed in slavery, & we had a runaway slave stay in our family, my cousin al eady told you about that, but what ia past is past, & when you make a comment like on your home page about "good white folk" that's being judgemental too. WE ARE ALL HUMANS, IF YOU WOULD STOP CATAGORIZING EVERYONE AS WHITE,( EXCUSE ME HERE, BUT IF I WEN AROUND SAYING I'M IRISH/INDIAN/GERMAN/SCOTTISH/AMERICAN I WOULD NEVER GET ANYTHING DONE BUT SAY MY HERITAGE!!!!!) OR AFRO/AMERICAN, THE WORLD WOULD GET ALONG BETTER!!! We are ALL AMERICANS, not a color or class. When ANYONE clearly makes the statement of GANGSTER--- what would one immediately think of???? I know, I know, it's GANGSTA-- whatever-- it's the same thing. Stop trying to make people think you're the way you DON'T want them to think you are---understand? Don't call attention to the bad thi gs--work on the good things in life---together with everyone. You make it rougher on yourselves, then start this about a FLAG, for God's sakes, to take the pressure off of yourselves. You keep racism going, on & on by bringing up the past, instead of h aling us, YOU, ARE OPENING THE WOUND UP & FESTERING IT. Dont' keep throwing your Heritage up in everyone's faces---I don't-- & if ANYONE has the right to BITCH ABOUT A FLAG--- THEN I AS PART NATIVE AMERICAN SHOULD WANT THE GODD OLE AMERICAN FLAG TAKEN DO N & MY TRIBES BANNER FLY HIGH!!!!!!!! PUT THAT IN YOUR PIPE & SMOKE AWHILE---


- 12/26/00 12:43:40
My Email:starmom2000
Ethnicity: What does it matter???
Country: USA
State: Md
How did you find our page?: Email
Comments:
I have lived in Maryland all my life, & it is known as the FREE STATE-- because it was in between the North & the South--- BUT , there were slaves here abundantly. Now, I never believed in slavery, & we had a runaway slave stay in our family, my cousin al eady told you about that, but what ia past is past, & when you make comment like on your home page about "good white folk" that's being judgemental too. WE ARE ALL HUMANS, IF YOU WOULD STOP CATAGORIZING EVERYONE AS WHITE,( EXCUSE ME HERE, BUT IF ALL WEN AROUND SAYING I'M IRISH/INDIAN/GERMAN/STOTISSH/AMERICAN WE WOULD NEVER GET ANYTHING DONE BUT SAY OUR HERITAGE!!!!!) OR AFRO/AMERICAN, THE WORLD WOULD GET ALONG BETTER!!!


- 12/26/00 12:43:39
My Email:starmom2000
Ethnicity: What does it matter???
Country: USA
State: Md
How did you find our page?: Email
Comments:
I have lived in Maryland all my life, & it is known as the FREE STATE-- because it was in between the North & the South--- BUT , there were slaves here abundantly. Now, I never believed in slavery, & we had a runaway slave stay in our family, my cousin al eady told you about that, but what ia past is past, & when you make comment like on your home page about "good white folk" that's being judgemental too. WE ARE ALL HUMANS, IF YOU WOULD STOP CATAGORIZING EVERYONE AS WHITE,( EXCUSE ME HERE, BUT IF ALL WEN AROUND SAYING I'M IRISH/INDIAN/GERMAN/STOTISSH/AMERICAN WE WOULD NEVER GET ANYTHING DONE BUT SAY OUR HERITAGE!!!!!) OR AFRO/AMERICAN, THE WORLD WOULD GET ALONG BETTER!!!


Crash - 12/26/00 11:01:59
My Email:southernwhiteboy
Ethnicity: American by birth, Southern By the Grace of God
Country: CSA
State: VA., via Fl
How did you find our page?: email
Comments:
I grew up in Manassas, Va. The Confederate Battle Flag was made in Honor of the Men who died at Manassas! It was taken from the St. Andrews Cross from Scotland. The Civil War was over economics, not slavery. Slavery was thrown in when Lincoln was losi ' the war! My Great, great grandfather Joseph Slider, was in the 19th Va. Cav., Co. A & H. He invited a slave to stay on his farm. The slave is buried there with my great, great uncle Owen. So ya think it was about slavery? Better learn how to read!!


George - 12/26/00 09:13:21
Ethnicity: Southron
Country: CSA
State: South Carolina
How did you find our page?: search
Comments:
To paraphrase a line from the NAACP's anti-Confederate flag decree: No white man in his right mind should support the NAACP. Try as you might, you can't justify to me what the NAACP really is: A klan with a tan.


- 12/26/00 06:17:01
Ethnicity: Southern White
Country: USA by force CSA by choice
State: Va.
How did you find our page?: Email
Comments:
Do all Blacks have a one-track mind? It seems that all they think about is that their ancestors were slaves. Well get over it. If someone told you that your great grandfather was a king, would that put a smile on your face for the rest of your life? Would that solve all of your problems? Even though it would not change anything. If you are so worried about slavery, why don't you stop your African cousins from practicing slavery in the twenty-first century? I suppose it is not as bad being a slave to a blac man today as it was to a white man a hundred and thirty-five years ago. I dont think that you are bothered by modern day slavery. Nineteenth century slavery is what really bothers you. You are separated from your ancestors by time and your African cousin by miles. One you can do something about the other you cannot.As for the Confederate battle flag that you hate so much. No one was ever a slave for one minute under that flag. It was never an official Confederate flag.It was strictly a battle flag. Howev r; if you are needing a flag to hate I have a couple of suggestions. Blacks were slaves from 1619 to 1776 under the British Union Jack.They were then slaves from 1776 to 1865 under the Stars & Stripes. Note, Lincoln didn't abolish slavery. The thirteenth mendment abolished slavery eight months after Lincoln had died. As far as hating the white man as much as you do for making your ancestors slaves , you should be very thankful every day that your ancestors were brought to this country for whatever reason. Show me one country that is predominantly black that is prosperous. Don't even think about South Africa. That country was built up by the white man. What about the other African countries, or even Haiti. Average income in Haiti is about $100 per year. You dont see many fat Africans or Haitians, even though we send them tons of free food and medicine. If it wasn't for the white man the USA would be just another Africa or Haiti. If you are equal or superior to the white man, why do you always insist on affir ative action and anything else to give you an edge (acquireing government contracts, jobs,etc)? If you really believed that you were equal you would insist on a level playing field. You would not ask for an advantage. If you think that you are the fastest runner in the race you do not insist that you be given a few yards jump on the other runners. Only a person who thinks that he is inferior would insist that he be given an advantage. Even the NAACP would have to shut down if it wasn't for the money extort d from white corporations. If you could check your genealogy (I know it's hard when 3/4 of blacks are born out of wedlock), I am sure some of the loudest whiners would find that their ancestors owned slaves in the USA as well as Africa. Also, many of you ould find your ancestors that did not own slaves were Confederate soldiers. For the Blacks that cannot get over slavery, I will see if I can find some cotton for you to chop. Then you will really have something to complain about. Maybe, even find some new ebonics to use on the white man. As far as Southerners fighting for slavery, very few Confederate soldiers owned slaves. Think about this for a minute. If you do not own any slaves, wouldn't you have to be a damn fool to be willing fight and die to prese ve slavery? If you think that living in the USA with the white man is so bad, just look at some pictures of some Africans. Between aids, starvation, battle scars, and ignorance, they are a sight to see. You can count their ribs as you can see them. Even t ough we send them tons of food and medicine, they do not get food stamps every month along with free health care whenever they need it. If they get free housing, you can bet that it is at best equal to the lifestyle of a homeless person. Look at the educa ion opportunity that this country offers (not that most of you take advantage of it). One more thing that I want to mention is the prison population. Blacks make up approximately 12% of the population of the USA and approximately 55% to 60% of the prison opulation. I am not talking about white collar crimes either. I am talking about violent crimes. Of course I am sure that white people commit the crimes, but we imprison black men in their place. Yes sir, we white folks sure have made life hard for all yo poor black folks. We force you to sell and take all those drugs. We won't let you work. We force a proportionally large per centage of the black people to be on welfare. We won't let you get married to have legitimate children.We make you drop out of sch ol. All of the drive-by shootings are the fault of the white man. All of your problems stem from the fact that you think that your ancestors were slaves over 135 years ago. Not all black people in this country are descended from slaves. ( I know that it i hard for you to trace your family tree).


- 12/26/00 06:16:58
Ethnicity: Southern White
Country: USA by force CSA by choice
State: Va.
How did you find our page?: Email
Comments:
Do all Blacks have a one-track mind? It seems that all they think about is that their ancestors were slaves. Well get over it. If someone told you that your great grandfather was a king, would that put a smile on your face for the rest of your life? Would that solve all of your problems? Even though it would not change anything. If you are so worried about slavery, why don't you stop your African cousins from practicing slavery in the twenty-first century? I suppose it is not as bad being a slave to a blac man today as it was to a white man a hundred and thirty-five years ago. I dont think that you are bothered by modern day slavery. Nineteenth century slavery is what really bothers you. You are separated from your ancestors by time and your African cousin by miles. One you can do something about the other you cannot.As for the Confederate battle flag that you hate so much. No one was ever a slave for one minute under that flag. It was never an official Confederate flag.It was strictly a battle flag. Howev r; if you are needing a flag to hate I have a couple of suggestions. Blacks were slaves from 1619 to 1776 under the British Union Jack.They were then slaves from 1776 to 1865 under the Stars & Stripes. Note, Lincoln didn't abolish slavery. The thirteenth mendment abolished slavery eight months after Lincoln had died. As far as hating the white man as much as you do for making your ancestors slaves , you should be very thankful every day that your ancestors were brought to this country for whatever reason. Show me one country that is predominantly black that is prosperous. Don't even think about South Africa. That country was built up by the white man. What about the other African countries, or even Haiti. Average income in Haiti is about $100 per year. You dont see many fat Africans or Haitians, even though we send them tons of free food and medicine. If it wasn't for the white man the USA would be just another Africa or Haiti. If you are equal or superior to the white man, why do you always insist on affir ative action and anything else to give you an edge (acquireing government contracts, jobs,etc)? If you really believed that you were equal you would insist on a level playing field. You would not ask for an advantage. If you think that you are the fastest runner in the race you do not insist that you be given a few yards jump on the other runners. Only a person who thinks that he is inferior would insist that he be given an advantage. Even the NAACP would have to shut down if it wasn't for the money extort d from white corporations. If you could check your genealogy (I know it's hard when 3/4 of blacks are born out of wedlock), I am sure some of the loudest whiners would find that their ancestors owned slaves in the USA as well as Africa. Also, many of you ould find your ancestors that did not own slaves were Confederate soldiers. For the Blacks that cannot get over slavery, I will see if I can find some cotton for you to chop. Then you will really have something to complain about. Maybe, even find some new ebonics to use on the white man. As far as Southerners fighting for slavery, very few Confederate soldiers owned slaves. Think about this for a minute. If you do not own any slaves, wouldn't you have to be a damn fool to be willing fight and die to prese ve slavery? If you think that living in the USA with the white man is so bad, just look at some pictures of some Africans. Between aids, starvation, battle scars, and ignorance, they are a sight to see. You can count their ribs as you can see them. Even t ough we send them tons of food and medicine, they do not get food stamps every month along with free health care whenever they need it. If they get free housing, you can bet that it is at best equal to the lifestyle of a homeless person. Look at the educa ion opportunity that this country offers (not that most of you take advantage of it). One more thing that I want to mention is the prison population. Blacks make up approximately 12% of the population of the USA and approximately 55% to 60% of the prison opulation. I am not talking about white collar crimes either. I am talking about violent crimes. Of course I am sure that white people commit the crimes, but we imprison black men in their place. Yes sir, we white folks sure have made life hard for all yo poor black folks. We force you to sell and take all those drugs. We won't let you work. We force a proportionally large per centage of the black people to be on welfare. We won't let you get married to have legitimate children.We make you drop out of sch ol. All of the drive-by shootings are the fault of the white man. All of your problems stem from the fact that you think that your ancestors were slaves over 135 years ago. Not all black people in this country are descended from slaves. ( I know that it i hard for you to trace your family tree).


- 12/26/00 06:16:51
Ethnicity: Southern White
Country: USA by force CSA by choice
State: Va.
How did you find our page?: Email
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Do all Blacks have a one-track mind? It seems that all they think about is that their ancestors were slaves. Well get over it. If someone told you that your great grandfather was a king, would that put a smile on your face for the rest of your life? Would that solve all of your problems? Even though it would not change anything. If you are so worried about slavery, why don't you stop your African cousins from practicing slavery in the twenty-first century? I suppose it is not as bad being a slave to a blac man today as it was to a white man a hundred and thirty-five years ago. I dont think that you are bothered by modern day slavery. Nineteenth century slavery is what really bothers you. You are separated from your ancestors by time and your African cousin by miles. One you can do something about the other you cannot.As for the Confederate battle flag that you hate so much. No one was ever a slave for one minute under that flag. It was never an official Confederate flag.It was strictly a battle flag. Howev r; if you are needing a flag to hate I have a couple of suggestions. Blacks were slaves from 1619 to 1776 under the British Union Jack.They were then slaves from 1776 to 1865 under the Stars & Stripes. Note, Lincoln didn't abolish slavery. The thirteenth mendment abolished slavery eight months after Lincoln had died. As far as hating the white man as much as you do for making your ancestors slaves , you should be very thankful every day that your ancestors were brought to this country for whatever reason. Show me one country that is predominantly black that is prosperous. Don't even think about South Africa. That country was built up by the white man. What about the other African countries, or even Haiti. Average income in Haiti is about $100 per year. You dont see many fat Africans or Haitians, even though we send them tons of free food and medicine. If it wasn't for the white man the USA would be just another Africa or Haiti. If you are equal or superior to the white man, why do you always insist on affir ative action and anything else to give you an edge (acquireing government contracts, jobs,etc)? If you really believed that you were equal you would insist on a level playing field. You would not ask for an advantage. If you think that you are the fastest runner in the race you do not insist that you be given a few yards jump on the other runners. Only a person who thinks that he is inferior would insist that he be given an advantage. Even the NAACP would have to shut down if it wasn't for the money extort d from white corporations. If you could check your genealogy (I know it's hard when 3/4 of blacks are born out of wedlock), I am sure some of the loudest whiners would find that their ancestors owned slaves in the USA as well as Africa. Also, many of you ould find your ancestors that did not own slaves were Confederate soldiers. For the Blacks that cannot get over slavery, I will see if I can find some cotton for you to chop. Then you will really have something to complain about. Maybe, even find some new ebonics to use on the white man. As far as Southerners fighting for slavery, very few Confederate soldiers owned slaves. Think about this for a minute. If you do not own any slaves, wouldn't you have to be a damn fool to be willing fight and die to prese ve slavery? If you think that living in the USA with the white man is so bad, just look at some pictures of some Africans. Between aids, starvation, battle scars, and ignorance, they are a sight to see. You can count their ribs as you can see them. Even t ough we send them tons of food and medicine, they do not get food stamps every month along with free health care whenever they need it. If they get free housing, you can bet that it is at best equal to the lifestyle of a homeless person. Look at the educa ion opportunity that this country offers (not that most of you take advantage of it). One more thing that I want to mention is the prison population. Blacks make up approximately 12% of the population of the USA and approximately 55% to 60% of the prison opulation. I am not talking about white collar crimes either. I am talking about violent crimes. Of course I am sure that white people commit the crimes, but we imprison black men in their place. Yes sir, we white folks sure have made life hard for all yo poor black folks. We force you to sell and take all those drugs. We won't let you work. We force a proportionally large per centage of the black people to be on welfare. We won't let you get married to have legitimate children.We make you drop out of sch ol. All of the drive-by shootings are the fault of the white man. All of your problems stem from the fact that you think that your ancestors were slaves over 135 years ago. Not all black people in this country are descended from slaves. ( I know that it i hard for you to trace your family tree).


- 12/26/00 06:11:28
Ethnicity: Southern White
Country: USA by force CSA by choice
State: Va.
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Do all Blacks have a one-track mind? It seems that all they think about is that their ancestors were slaves. Well get over it. If someone told you that your great grandfather was a king, would that put a smile on your face for the rest of your life? Would that solve all of your problems? Even though it would not change anything. If you are so worried about slavery, why don't you stop your African cousins from practicing slavery in the twenty-first century? I suppose it is not as bad being a slave to a blac man today as it was to a white man a hundred and thirty-five years ago. I dont think that you are bothered by modern day slavery. Nineteenth century slavery is what really bothers you. You are separated from your ancestors by time and your African cousin by miles. One you can do something about the other you cannot.As for the Confederate battle flag that you hate so much. No one was ever a slave for one minute under that flag. It was never an official Confederate flag.It was strictly a battle flag. Howev r; if you are needing a flag to hate I have a couple of suggestions. Blacks were slaves from 1619 to 1776 under the British Union Jack.They were then slaves from 1776 to 1865 under the Stars & Stripes. Note, Lincoln didn't abolish slavery. The thirteenth mendment abolished slavery eight months after Lincoln had died. As far as hating the white man as much as you do for making your ancestors slaves , you should be very thankful every day that your ancestors were brought to this country for whatever reason. Show me one country that is predominantly black that is prosperous. Don't even think about South Africa. That country was built up by the white man. What about the other African countries, or even Haiti. Average income in Haiti is about $100 per year. You dont see many fat Africans or Haitians, even though we send them tons of free food and medicine. If it wasn't for the white man the USA would be just another Africa or Haiti. If you are equal or superior to the white man, why do you always insist on affir ative action and anything else to give you an edge (acquireing government contracts, jobs,etc)? If you really believed that you were equal you would insist on a level playing field. You would not ask for an advantage. If you think that you are the fastest runner in the race you do not insist that you be given a few yards jump on the other runners. Only a person who thinks that he is inferior would insist that he be given an advantage. Even the NAACP would have to shut down if it wasn't for the money extort d from white corporations. If you could check your genealogy (I know it's hard when 3/4 of blacks are born out of wedlock), I am sure some of the loudest whiners would find that their ancestors owned slaves in the USA as well as Africa. Also, many of you ould find your ancestors that did not own slaves were Confederate soldiers. For the Blacks that cannot get over slavery, I will see if I can find some cotton for you to chop. Then you will really have something to complain about. Maybe, even find some new ebonics to use on the white man. As far as Southerners fighting for slavery, very few Confederate soldiers owned slaves. Think about this for a minute. If you do not own any slaves, wouldn't you have to be a damn fool to be willing fight and die to prese ve slavery? If you think that living in the USA with the white man is so bad, just look at some pictures of some Africans. Between aids, starvation, battle scars, and ignorance, they are a sight to see. You can count their ribs as you can see them. Even t ough we send them tons of food and medicine, they do not get food stamps every month along with free health care whenever they need it. If they get free housing, you can bet that it is at best equal to the lifestyle of a homeless person. Look at the educa ion opportunity that this country offers (not that most of you take advantage of it). One more thing that I want to mention is the prison population. Blacks make up approximately 12% of the population of the USA and approximately 55% to 60% of the prison opulation. I am not talking about white collar crimes either. I am talking about violent crimes. Of course I am sure that white people commit the crimes, but we imprison black men in their place. Yes sir, we white folks sure have made life hard for all yo poor black folks. We force you to sell and take all those drugs. We won't let you work. We force a proportionally large per centage of the black people to be on welfare. We won't let you get married to have legitimate children.We make you drop out of sch ol. All of the drive-by shootings are the fault of the white man. All of your problems stem from the fact that you think that your ancestors were slaves over 135 years ago. Not all black people in this country are descended from slaves. ( I know that it i hard for you to trace your family tree).


- 12/26/00 06:09:16
Ethnicity: Southern White
Country: USA by force CSA by choice
State: Va.
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Do all Blacks have a one-track mind? It seems that all they think about is that their ancestors were slaves. Well get over it. If someone told you that your great grandfather was a king, would that put a smile on your face for the rest of your life? Would that solve all of your problems? Even though it would not change anything. If you are so worried about slavery, why don't you stop your African cousins from practicing slavery in the twenty-first century? I suppose it is not as bad being a slave to a blac man today as it was to a white man a hundred and thirty-five years ago. I dont think that you are bothered by modern day slavery. Nineteenth century slavery is what really bothers you. You are separated from your ancestors by time and your African cousin by miles. One you can do something about the other you cannot.As for the Confederate battle flag that you hate so much. No one was ever a slave for one minute under that flag. It was never an official Confederate flag.It was strictly a battle flag. Howev r; if you are needing a flag to hate I have a couple of suggestions. Blacks were slaves from 1619 to 1776 under the British Union Jack.They were then slaves from 1776 to 1865 under the Stars & Stripes. Note, Lincoln didn't abolish slavery. The thirteenth mendment abolished slavery eight months after Lincoln had died. As far as hating the white man as much as you do for making your ancestors slaves , you should be very thankful every day that your ancestors were brought to this country for whatever reason. Show me one country that is predominantly black that is prosperous. Don't even think about South Africa. That country was built up by the white man. What about the other African countries, or even Haiti. Average income in Haiti is about $100 per year. You dont see many fat Africans or Haitians, even though we send them tons of free food and medicine. If it wasn't for the white man the USA would be just another Africa or Haiti. If you are equal or superior to the white man, why do you always insist on affir ative action and anything else to give you an edge (acquireing government contracts, jobs,etc)? If you really believed that you were equal you would insist on a level playing field. You would not ask for an advantage. If you think that you are the fastest runner in the race you do not insist that you be given a few yards jump on the other runners. Only a person who thinks that he is inferior would insist that he be given an advantage. Even the NAACP would have to shut down if it wasn't for the money extort d from white corporations. If you could check your genealogy (I know it's hard when 3/4 of blacks are born out of wedlock), I am sure some of the loudest whiners would find that their ancestors owned slaves in the USA as well as Africa. Also, many of you ould find your ancestors that did not own slaves were Confederate soldiers. For the Blacks that cannot get over slavery, I will see if I can find some cotton for you to chop. Then you will really have something to complain about. Maybe, even find some new ebonics to use on the white man. As far as Southerners fighting for slavery, very few Confederate soldiers owned slaves. Think about this for a minute. If you do not own any slaves, wouldn't you have to be a damn fool to be willing fight and die to prese ve slavery? If you think that living in the USA with the white man is so bad, just look at some pictures of some Africans. Between aids, starvation, battle scars, and ignorance, they are a sight to see. You can count their ribs as you can see them. Even t ough we send them tons of food and medicine, they do not get food stamps every month along with free health care whenever they need it. If they get free housing, you can bet that it is at best equal to the lifestyle of a homeless person. Look at the educa ion opportunity that this country offers (not that most of you take advantage of it). One more thing that I want to mention is the prison population. Blacks make up approximately 12% of the population of the USA and approximately 55% to 60% of the prison opulation. I am not talking about white collar crimes either. I am talking about violent crimes. Of course I am sure that white people commit the crimes, but we imprison black men in their place. Yes sir, we white folks sure have made life hard for all yo poor black folks. We force you to sell and take all those drugs. We won't let you work. We force a proportionally large per centage of the black people to be on welfare. We won't let you get married to have legitimate children.We make you drop out of sch ol. All of the drive-by shootings are the fault of the white man. All of your problems stem from the fact that you think that your ancestors were slaves over 135 years ago. Not all black people in this country are descended from slaves. ( I know that it i hard for you to trace your family tree).


- 12/26/00 06:07:41
Ethnicity: Southern White
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State: Va.
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Do all Blacks have a one-track mind? It seems that all they think about is that their ancestors were slaves. Well get over it. If someone told you that your great grandfather was a king, would that put a smile on your face for the rest of your life? Would that solve all of your problems? Even though it would not change anything. If you are so worried about slavery, why don't you stop your African cousins from practicing slavery in the twenty-first century? I suppose it is not as bad being a slave to a blac man today as it was to a white man a hundred and thirty-five years ago. I dont think that you are bothered by modern day slavery. Nineteenth century slavery is what really bothers you. You are separated from your ancestors by time and your African cousin by miles. One you can do something about the other you cannot.As for the Confederate battle flag that you hate so much. No one was ever a slave for one minute under that flag. It was never an official Confederate flag.It was strictly a battle flag. Howev r; if you are needing a flag to hate I have a couple of suggestions. Blacks were slaves from 1619 to 1776 under the British Union Jack.They were then slaves from 1776 to 1865 under the Stars & Stripes. Note, Lincoln didn't abolish slavery. The thirteenth mendment abolished slavery eight months after Lincoln had died. As far as hating the white man as much as you do for making your ancestors slaves , you should be very thankful every day that your ancestors were brought to this country for whatever reason. Show me one country that is predominantly black that is prosperous. Don't even think about South Africa. That country was built up by the white man. What about the other African countries, or even Haiti. Average income in Haiti is about $100 per year. You dont see many fat Africans or Haitians, even though we send them tons of free food and medicine. If it wasn't for the white man the USA would be just another Africa or Haiti. If you are equal or superior to the white man, why do you always insist on affir ative action and anything else to give you an edge (acquireing government contracts, jobs,etc)? If you really believed that you were equal you would insist on a level playing field. You would not ask for an advantage. If you think that you are the fastest runner in the race you do not insist that you be given a few yards jump on the other runners. Only a person who thinks that he is inferior would insist that he be given an advantage. Even the NAACP would have to shut down if it wasn't for the money extort d from white corporations. If you could check your genealogy (I know it's hard when 3/4 of blacks are born out of wedlock), I am sure some of the loudest whiners would find that their ancestors owned slaves in the USA as well as Africa. Also, many of you ould find your ancestors that did not own slaves were Confederate soldiers. For the Blacks that cannot get over slavery, I will see if I can find some cotton for you to chop. Then you will really have something to complain about. Maybe, even find some new ebonics to use on the white man. As far as Southerners fighting for slavery, very few Confederate soldiers owned slaves. Think about this for a minute. If you do not own any slaves, wouldn't you have to be a damn fool to be willing fight and die to prese ve slavery? If you think that living in the USA with the white man is so bad, just look at some pictures of some Africans. Between aids, starvation, battle scars, and ignorance, they are a sight to see. You can count their ribs as you can see them. Even t ough we send them tons of food and medicine, they do not get food stamps every month along with free health care whenever they need it. If they get free housing, you can bet that it is at best equal to the lifestyle of a homeless person. Look at the educa ion opportunity that this country offers (not that most of you take advantage of it). One more thing that I want to mention is the prison population. Blacks make up approximately 12% of the population of the USA and approximately 55% to 60% of the prison opulation. I am not talking about white collar crimes either. I am talking about violent crimes. Of course I am sure that white people commit the crimes, but we imprison black men in their place. Yes sir, we white folks sure have made life hard for all yo poor black folks. We force you to sell and take all those drugs. We won't let you work. We force a proportionally large per centage of the black people to be on welfare. We won't let you get married to have legitimate children.We make you drop out of sch ol. All of the drive-by shootings are the fault of the white man. All of your problems stem from the fact that you think that your ancestors were slaves over 135 years ago. Not all black people in this country are descended from slaves. ( I know that it i hard for you to trace your family tree).


Benjamin Hestley - 12/26/00 05:46:09
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I will not repeat the pro-Confederate Flag information that has been provided. Sufficeth it to say that those in favor of the Confederate Flag have presented their case exceedingly well. And it is backed up by actual history as it occurred. HOwever, I must point out the lie in your first statement that the Confederate Flag is recognized all over the world as representing racist, hatemongers, etc. You are as far from the truth in this in tance as you are throughout the entirety of your article. The Confederate Battle Flag has been, is being and will be flown whereever people are attempting to throw off totalitarian governments. It has been seen in the former USSR satelite states who thr w off that oppressive government. In England it is a respected banner by a large number of English people. Lastly, if blacks are reminded of slavery when they see the Confederate Battle Flag, then why are they insisting that the US National Park Service r mind all visitiors to the War for Southern Independence battle sites about slavery. By the same token, why do Civil Rights Museums show blacks being hosed down by fire hoses and attacked by police dogs when they rioted in Southern cities? There seems to be a disconnect here between these two issues. First, I don't want to be reminded,th n secondly, yes, I want to be reminded. In each instance the black thinking is to discredit every aspect of the truth of history as it relates to white society.


- 12/26/00 05:07:56
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If malcom were alive I'd tell him to kiss my ass along with the rest of you!


B. Isaacs - 12/26/00 03:51:11
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Jon Ayres - 12/26/00 03:48:28
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It's really a shame and embarrassment that so called educated people such as yourselves really know nothing about what your talking about and writing in these so called newspapers. All of you like to make these attacks against Georgia's State flag and Confederate, yet not once has any of you provided any proof to back up any of the statements or charges you make. Maybe because you know that you can not do it and that you are nothin but liars. I have told quite a few of you before, especially that so called journalist Cythiane Tucker of the Atlanta Journal Constitution that if she could prove just one statement of hers concerning the Georgia State Flag, that I would myself work for changing it, yet not one bit of proof from her. You people need to wake up because the people of the South know what's going on and what the truth is. They know that people like the jokes with thsi web page is nothing but racist hypercrites who only wan to make money and put themselves in the limelight. It really was a pleasure to see that jerk Tim Livingston going around Georgia making a ass of himself. He came to Albany, and maybe had around 60 people march with him to protest the Georgia State Flag, considering the population of Albany is 160,000, an all he can get is 60 people, that speaks for itself. Then that jerk goes to Savannah, and he can only get maybe 45 people to march. But the biggest thrill was after the march when he had some speeches going. One of the speakers was that homeless man t at has tried suing Georgia about it's state flag and what does this man say, "That the only flag he ever saw the KKK carry was the pre 1956 State Flag." Now you talk about people looking like fools, That clown Tim Livingston and Mr. Barton looked like tw of the biggest fools there could be. Let's face it, the true racists in the State of Georgia are those like you who attack my family, my heritage and my history. You would make good klansmen because you think just like they do. The majority of Georgia's citizens do not want the Georgia St te Flag changed and and have the right to be pride of their heritage. The majority have rights also, it is not just the minority who have rights. When the time comes that the majority want the flag changed, then it will be changed. The majority of Geor ia's citizens know the truth about the flag, and this bull that you clowns keep trying to put out does nothing but make you look like lying fools. But if that is the way you wish the public to perceive you to be, fine, you have nobody to blame but yourse ves. Because the people of the South are not stupid, except for a small number such as yourselves who feel that you can pass your ignorance on to others. You may think I'm mad and you'll be right. Ninety members of my family served with honor in the Confederate Army and I'm damn proud of them all. This country has produce no finer men than the men who served in that army. Men like Gen. Robert Edward Lee who hated no one, done more for this country than any other man this country ever produced. He had the courage to do what he believed was right and then he did all he could to bring this country together after the war was over. These men hated none. I is racists like you who try and divide people, who look down on people, you would have fit right in the German Nazi Party. Fact of the matter is that you are nothing but a bunch of ignorant racist hypocrites. Never once has any of you spoken out against the slave trade that goes on in Africa today. Not once have any of you spoken out against the proverty so high is Central frica that families have to sell their daughters to slave traders to be carried to the middle east to be sold into slavery. Not once has any of you spoken out against the practice of slavery that still goes on in the Middle East. Not once have any of you spoken out against slave raiders raiding villages in the Sudan killing all the men and boys and taking the women and girls to be sold as slaves in the middle east. Yes, the actions of all of you racist hypocrites speak louder tha the racist trash you write and spout out in speeches. I have tried to do something to stop the slave trade in Africa. Our War Between the States had nothing to do with slavery till Lincoln was losing the war. How come you do not mention that Lincoln h d no intention of letting blacks stay in this country, that is why the US bought Liberia, to send all the blacks there whether they wanted to go or not. The only reason blacks were not sent out of teh country was because Lincoln was killed. Lincoln had o love of the black race. Just study your history. The facts are there. By the way, if any of you would take the time to check facts, you would find that during the so called boycott of the racist klan with a tan "NAACP National Association of Always Complaining People", business, and tourists grew by leaps and bounds. Yes that boycott had a effect, it brought more money into South Carolina, that is a fact that can be proven, all you have to do is act like reasonable reporters and check the facts first like you should have been taught in school if any of you even graduated from college. Let us look at South Carolina where the NAACP boycott is in full force. The S.C. Dept. of Parks, Recreation & Tourism has recently released the following data. Tourism in S.C. created a record economic impact in the state up 11.1 % to $15.65 billion from last year. Investment in tourism related businesses is up 66.5%. Tourism related tax receipts increased 9.7 %. Visitor spending hit a record $7.14 billion. This is the same threatened boycott that is supposed to panic business leaders in Georgia? Furtherm re, when BMW built their plant in South Carolina & Mercedes their plant in Alabama both states flew the Confederate battle flag over their capitols. This is fact and pretty well shoots to hell all that trash you are trying to pass off. Now let us look briefly at the history of economic growth in Georgia under the current flag. Census data shows an increase in population from approximately 3.6 million in 1956 to 7.7 million (projected) in 2000. Yearly Per Capita Income rose from approx. $1,400 in 1956 to an estimated $27,000 in 2000. The Gross State Product has increased from approx. 9 billion dollars to an estimated 275 billion dollars in 2000. Industry has thrived under the current flag. For example, Delta Airlines chose to make Georgia its home base in the '60s. Home Depot and CNN both were created and prospered under the Confederate banner. Coca Cola, the invention of Confederate Captain John Pemberton, has grown in Georgia to be an international giant. Growth in Georgia has been so explosive that Gov. Roy Barnes has created G.R.T.A. to reign in and control runaway growth and its accompanying sprawl that threaten the quality of life in Metro Atlanta and other parts of the state. However, one municipality has not shared in the growth and prosperity of the region, despite millions of dollars in state and federal funds that have been poured into t. That city is Atlanta itself. Following the election of Maynard Jackson as Mayor in 1973 and throughout each succeeding administration we have seen Atlanta lag behind the rest of the metro area. Interestingly enough, Atlanta has been the leader in the attack on Southern symbols refusing to fly the current flag at any city controlled venue. What is the business climate like in Georgia at the present time while we still fly the Saint Andrews Cross on our current flag. The Atlanta Constitution reports Metro Atlanta is in the top 10 locations ( #5 ) for venture capital investment with 714 million invested in the 1st quarter of 2000. Forbes Magazine reports Metro Atlanta to be the 2nd best place in the nation to do business. Tom Cousins sees a second Silicon Valley forming here, with 46,000 high tech jobs being created here between 1993-1998. How can this growth be explained n light of these politically correct assertions regarding the flag. We are told that the current flag is an embarrassment to Georgia and will retard growth in the 21st century if it is not replaced with the pre-56 flag. Why have business leaders, the media and politicians not presented this information to the public in any forum dealing with this matter? Could it be that the Gwinnett Co. Chamber of Commerce, following the lead of the city of Atlanta, has decided to use the pre-56 flag as a instrument to control growth in that county which grew from 43,000 pop. in 1960 to 441,000 in 2000. Next, bas d purely on the real figures, we may expect G.R.T.A. to require municipalities with runaway growth and sprawl to revert to the pre-56 flag also. In any debate regarding which flag best represents the state, these questions should be addressed: 1. From 1882 to 1930 how many minorities were lynched in Georgia under the old flag? 474 2. What flag flew when was Leo Frank was lynched in 1915? The old flag 3. What flag flew over the era of Jim Crow? The old flag 4. What flag flew when Hank Aaron played ball in Georgia for the Braves? Current flag 5. What flag flew when Herschel Walker & Charlayne Hunter went to UGA? Current flag 6. Under what flag has Georgia experienced unprecedented growth and prosperity? Current flag To make the case that a South which displays proudly its rich heritage is somehow at an economic disadvantage, one must use facts and figures. Sheer wishful bigotry will not suffice. The evidence thus far does not indicate any economic disadvantage other than that which is attempted by individuals and groups profiting by perpetuating hatred and distrust among the races. Regions around the world market and sell their heritage to the touring public and no region has more to offer than that which enjoys more books written about it than any other; the most famous region in the world: the South. People know the truth and they know who the liars are. All of you would have made George Orwell proud. Your doing exactly the same thing he wrote about in 1984 where "Who controls the past, controls the future: Who controls the present, controls the past" Orwell described a society where historic events were rewritten or erased from the record if they contradicted the accepted propaganda of the ruling elite. This politically correct version of events was used to indoctrinate a people who had no other source of information. It appear we are seeing such a system emerge in our own time. If anybody is to be blamed for the problems of Georgia, it is know nothing, do nothing jokes such as you. If you do not like the Confederate flag, fine, that is your right, just keep your racist butt up north and stay out of the South. You have no right to demand that the majority who tak pride in their families, heritage, and culture bend to your rules and demands. This country was founded on majority rule and untill the majority wishes for teh Confederate flags be removed from public, they will fly. But I will admit that your racist h lf truths do serve a usefull purpose, they open a lot of eyes to what the truth really is and who the racists really are. So keep up your good work, it only helps us so the truth of who teh real racists are. Jon D. Ayres Albany, GA


Jon Ayres - 12/26/00 03:48:00
My Email:jonjosie@worldnet.att.net
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Country: USA
State: GA
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It's really a shame and embarrassment that so called educated people such as yourselves really know nothing about what your talking about and writing in these so called newspapers. All of you like to make these attacks against Georgia's State flag and Confederate, yet not once has any of you provided any proof to back up any of the statements or charges you make. Maybe because you know that you can not do it and that you are nothin but liars. I have told quite a few of you before, especially that so called journalist Cythiane Tucker of the Atlanta Journal Constitution that if she could prove just one statement of hers concerning the Georgia State Flag, that I would myself work for changing it, yet not one bit of proof from her. You people need to wake up because the people of the South know what's going on and what the truth is. They know that people like the jokes with thsi web page is nothing but racist hypercrites who only wan to make money and put themselves in the limelight. It really was a pleasure to see that jerk Tim Livingston going around Georgia making a ass of himself. He came to Albany, and maybe had around 60 people march with him to protest the Georgia State Flag, considering the population of Albany is 160,000, an all he can get is 60 people, that speaks for itself. Then that jerk goes to Savannah, and he can only get maybe 45 people to march. But the biggest thrill was after the march when he had some speeches going. One of the speakers was that homeless man t at has tried suing Georgia about it's state flag and what does this man say, "That the only flag he ever saw the KKK carry was the pre 1956 State Flag." Now you talk about people looking like fools, That clown Tim Livingston and Mr. Barton looked like tw of the biggest fools there could be. Let's face it, the true racists in the State of Georgia are those like you who attack my family, my heritage and my history. You would make good klansmen because you think just like they do. The majority of Georgia's citizens do not want the Georgia St te Flag changed and and have the right to be pride of their heritage. The majority have rights also, it is not just the minority who have rights. When the time comes that the majority want the flag changed, then it will be changed. The majority of Geor ia's citizens know the truth about the flag, and this bull that you clowns keep trying to put out does nothing but make you look like lying fools. But if that is the way you wish the public to perceive you to be, fine, you have nobody to blame but yourse ves. Because the people of the South are not stupid, except for a small number such as yourselves who feel that you can pass your ignorance on to others. You may think I'm mad and you'll be right. Ninety members of my family served with honor in the Confederate Army and I'm damn proud of them all. This country has produce no finer men than the men who served in that army. Men like Gen. Robert Edward Lee who hated no one, done more for this country than any other man this country ever produced. He had the courage to do what he believed was right and then he did all he could to bring this country together after the war was over. These men hated none. I is racists like you who try and divide people, who look down on people, you would have fit right in the German Nazi Party. Fact of the matter is that you are nothing but a bunch of ignorant racist hypocrites. Never once has any of you spoken out against the slave trade that goes on in Africa today. Not once have any of you spoken out against the proverty so high is Central frica that families have to sell their daughters to slave traders to be carried to the middle east to be sold into slavery. Not once has any of you spoken out against the practice of slavery that still goes on in the Middle East. Not once have any of you spoken out against slave raiders raiding villages in the Sudan killing all the men and boys and taking the women and girls to be sold as slaves in the middle east. Yes, the actions of all of you racist hypocrites speak louder tha the racist trash you write and spout out in speeches. I have tried to do something to stop the slave trade in Africa. Our War Between the States had nothing to do with slavery till Lincoln was losing the war. How come you do not mention that Lincoln h d no intention of letting blacks stay in this country, that is why the US bought Liberia, to send all the blacks there whether they wanted to go or not. The only reason blacks were not sent out of teh country was because Lincoln was killed. Lincoln had o love of the black race. Just study your history. The facts are there. By the way, if any of you would take the time to check facts, you would find that during the so called boycott of the racist klan with a tan "NAACP National Association of Always Complaining People", business, and tourists grew by leaps and bounds. Yes that boycott had a effect, it brought more money into South Carolina, that is a fact that can be proven, all you have to do is act like reasonable reporters and check the facts first like you should have been taught in school if any of you even graduated from college. Let us look at South Carolina where the NAACP boycott is in full force. The S.C. Dept. of Parks, Recreation & Tourism has recently released the following data. Tourism in S.C. created a record economic impact in the state up 11.1 % to $15.65 billion from last year. Investment in tourism related businesses is up 66.5%. Tourism related tax receipts increased 9.7 %. Visitor spending hit a record $7.14 billion. This is the same threatened boycott that is supposed to panic business leaders in Georgia? Furtherm re, when BMW built their plant in South Carolina & Mercedes their plant in Alabama both states flew the Confederate battle flag over their capitols. This is fact and pretty well shoots to hell all that trash you are trying to pass off. Now let us look briefly at the history of economic growth in Georgia under the current flag. Census data shows an increase in population from approximately 3.6 million in 1956 to 7.7 million (projected) in 2000. Yearly Per Capita Income rose from approx. $1,400 in 1956 to an estimated $27,000 in 2000. The Gross State Product has increased from approx. 9 billion dollars to an estimated 275 billion dollars in 2000. Industry has thrived under the current flag. For example, Delta Airlines chose to make Georgia its home base in the '60s. Home Depot and CNN both were created and prospered under the Confederate banner. Coca Cola, the invention of Confederate Captain John Pemberton, has grown in Georgia to be an international giant. Growth in Georgia has been so explosive that Gov. Roy Barnes has created G.R.T.A. to reign in and control runaway growth and its accompanying sprawl that threaten the quality of life in Metro Atlanta and other parts of the state. However, one municipality has not shared in the growth and prosperity of the region, despite millions of dollars in state and federal funds that have been poured into t. That city is Atlanta itself. Following the election of Maynard Jackson as Mayor in 1973 and throughout each succeeding administration we have seen Atlanta lag behind the rest of the metro area. Interestingly enough, Atlanta has been the leader in the attack on Southern symbols refusing to fly the current flag at any city controlled venue. What is the business climate like in Georgia at the present time while we still fly the Saint Andrews Cross on our current flag. The Atlanta Constitution reports Metro Atlanta is in the top 10 locations ( #5 ) for venture capital investment with 714 million invested in the 1st quarter of 2000. Forbes Magazine reports Metro Atlanta to be the 2nd best place in the nation to do business. Tom Cousins sees a second Silicon Valley forming here, with 46,000 high tech jobs being created here between 1993-1998. How can this growth be explained n light of these politically correct assertions regarding the flag. We are told that the current flag is an embarrassment to Georgia and will retard growth in the 21st century if it is not replaced with the pre-56 flag. Why have business leaders, the media and politicians not presented this information to the public in any forum dealing with this matter? Could it be that the Gwinnett Co. Chamber of Commerce, following the lead of the city of Atlanta, has decided to use the pre-56 flag as a instrument to control growth in that county which grew from 43,000 pop. in 1960 to 441,000 in 2000. Next, bas d purely on the real figures, we may expect G.R.T.A. to require municipalities with runaway growth and sprawl to revert to the pre-56 flag also. In any debate regarding which flag best represents the state, these questions should be addressed: 1. From 1882 to 1930 how many minorities were lynched in Georgia under the old flag? 474 2. What flag flew when was Leo Frank was lynched in 1915? The old flag 3. What flag flew over the era of Jim Crow? The old flag 4. What flag flew when Hank Aaron played ball in Georgia for the Braves? Current flag 5. What flag flew when Herschel Walker & Charlayne Hunter went to UGA? Current flag 6. Under what flag has Georgia experienced unprecedented growth and prosperity? Current flag To make the case that a South which displays proudly its rich heritage is somehow at an economic disadvantage, one must use facts and figures. Sheer wishful bigotry will not suffice. The evidence thus far does not indicate any economic disadvantage other than that which is attempted by individuals and groups profiting by perpetuating hatred and distrust among the races. Regions around the world market and sell their heritage to the touring public and no region has more to offer than that which enjoys more books written about it than any other; the most famous region in the world: the South. People know the truth and they know who the liars are. All of you would have made George Orwell proud. Your doing exactly the same thing he wrote about in 1984 where "Who controls the past, controls the future: Who controls the present, controls the past" Orwell described a society where historic events were rewritten or erased from the record if they contradicted the accepted propaganda of the ruling elite. This politically correct version of events was used to indoctrinate a people who had no other source of information. It appear we are seeing such a system emerge in our own time. If anybody is to be blamed for the problems of Georgia, it is know nothing, do nothing jokes such as you. If you do not like the Confederate flag, fine, that is your right, just keep your racist butt up north and stay out of the South. You have no right to demand that the majority who tak pride in their families, heritage, and culture bend to your rules and demands. This country was founded on majority rule and untill the majority wishes for teh Confederate flags be removed from public, they will fly. But I will admit that your racist h lf truths do serve a usefull purpose, they open a lot of eyes to what the truth really is and who the racists really are. So keep up your good work, it only helps us so the truth of who teh real racists are. Jon D. Ayres Albany, GA


M. Bean - 12/25/00 23:40:22
My Email:beaner@exp.net
Ethnicity: Caucasian
Country: USA
State: Texas
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I am a member of the SCV. While I can see some of your view point on the flag. I too deplore the use of the flag by the Klan and other racist groups. However, I must also look at the fact my ancestors fought for the South. I know from my research none of them owned slaves. The were farmers and laborers. They fought to protect Texas from an invasion of outsiders. No one with any sense can condone or defend Slavery. I feel it was dying before the war and needed to be ended. Many Southerners of the ti e felt the same. Perhaps our outlooks are completely different. However, we are all Americans, this was decided by our ancestors, Black and White. My greatest hope is all those involved in this issue can sit down as responsible, intelligent individuals and settle this matter to everyones' agreement. Thank You for Your Time M. Bean


Mike - 12/25/00 20:15:13
My Email:Silverfish@angelfire.com
Ethnicity: guess
Country: CSA
State: Georgia
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As usual, it's always how minorities feel about something that really count, right ? Funny how you make a big noise abot how biggotted you say the flag is, but you don't see your own biggotry in your actions. In my oppinion, the NAACP must go ! No compromises. In my oppinion, you quote Malcom X, a biggot in his own right. I guess I have the right to call the kettle black, since by your actions I see nothing less that biggotted actions. Why don't you lay off. And yes, "Whites" GAVE you everything you have, including Affirmative Actions. To quote the Confederate Flag edict from the NAACP: No white in his right mind should support ANYTHING that does in his own race.


White on Brother - 12/25/00 16:40:33
My Email:Northerer@aol.com
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State: NA
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The United States Flag would still stand for Slavery today if Lincoln hadn't had enough with the duration of his invasion of the South. The Negro was only just a pawn in the war chest game of Lincoln, nothing more. SLAVERY STILL EXISTED IN NORTHERN STATES LONG AFTER THE WAR WAS OVER!Get over it, your free today, leave the White's to symbolize their lost country!


Leland Hamner - 12/25/00 16:17:02
My Email:conchoreb
Ethnicity: Confederate Southern American
Country: CSA
State: Texas
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Two thoughts: 1. Though it is true slavery is bad,(I say IS as it is still a thriving institution in Africa) the slaves of the American South fared much better than those in the West Indies and South America--and the descendants of the latter don't spend near as much t me whining as do their North American counterparts BTW. African-Americans could have had it worse--their ancestors could have remainded free and in Africa. You should thank God every day that "My heritage is your slavery" as y'all like to say. 2. As African-Americans now seem mainly concerned with our glorious battle flag,all of your battles must be won,right? No more "rights" to fight for I suppose? All the problems of black pregnant unwed teens,drugs,unemployment,welfare-slavery, and crime ha e been solved, have they? One thing is for sure--all of these real problems will be eliminated before our Southern Cross disappears!


Ron Wilhelms - 12/25/00 14:58:00
My Email:rwilh80270@aol.com
Ethnicity: American
Country: CSA
State: Missouri
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Mr. Crawford appears to me to be a racist and bigot of the worst sort. The War of Northern Aggression was NOT about slavery but, purely and simply, a matter of economics. I fly the Battle Flag in front of my home every day, and would remind negro Americans that the First Amendment gives me the right to do so; BUT, it does NOT g ve you the right NOT to be offended. So, if my flag bothers you, do what the Marxist liberals tell us to do about their TV cesspool: turn it off; or, in this case, look the other way! (By the way, "concede" is not spelled "conceed", or maybe that's "ebonics"?)


Ron Wilhelms - 12/25/00 14:50:09
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LARRY LEE SPENCE - 12/25/00 14:44:09
My Email:pvt21stvirginia@hotmail.com
Ethnicity: Confederate Southern American
Country: USA & CSA
State: NORTH CAROLINA
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I JUST CAME ACROSS THIS WEB SITE AND HAVE BEEN VERY OFFENDED BY IT.CERTAIN GROUPS AND PERSONS CONTINUE TO ATTACK MY COUNTRY,HERITAGE & ANCESTORS. I THINK WE SHOULD START DOING THE SAME THING CERTAIN OTHER GROUPS ARE DOING TO OUR SYMBOLS & HERITAGE.THERE A E CONSTANT ATTACKS ON THE FLAGS OF THE SOUTH,THE MISSISSIPPI AND GEORGIA FLAGS.EVERYONE SAYS THIS IS GOT TO DO WITH SLAVERY B.S.THE AMERICAN FLAG HAS FLOWN OVER SLAVERY FOR A MUCH LONGER TIME THAN THE SOUTHERN FLAGS.BUT NO ONE KNOWS THIS,OR THE YANKEE HIS ORY BOOKS EXPLAIN IT.STOP ATTACKING OUR HISTORY AND HERITAGE.I HAD FAMILY WHO FOUGHT IN THIS GREAT WAR,AND EACH TIME SOMETHING OF THE SOUTHERN PEOPLE IS ATTACKED IT A DISGRACE AND DISHONOR TO THEM.AND I'M MAD AND TIRED OF ALL THESE ATTACKS.MY ANCESTORS NE ER OWNED ANY MAN AND DIDN'T BELIEVE IN IT.THEY WERE CHRISTIANS AND FARMERS.THEY DID NOT FIGHT FOR SLAVERY,THEY FOUGHT FOR THERE LAND AND RIGHTS AS HUMAN BEINGS.PEOPLE NEED TO STOP ATTACKING PEOPLES HERITAGE AND SYMBOLS.WE DONT DO THIS TO THERE HISTORY AND HERITAGE,OR MAYBE WE SHOULD THINK ABOUT IT AGAIN.THINK ABOUT SLAVERY UNDER THE U.S.FEDERAL GOVERMENT.IT REALLY DID HAPPEN.UNDER THE U.S.FLAG.SO LET SOME OF THESE GROUPS MIND THERE OWN BUSINESS AND DEAL WITH THE REAL ISSUES OF TODAY.LETS DON'T START ANOTHE CIVIL WAR. A CONFEDERATE SOUTHERN AMERICAN, LARRY LEE SPENCE


A. HARPER - 12/25/00 14:27:44
My Email:ALBRTHR@AOL.COM
Ethnicity: BLK
Country: USA
State: MI.
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WHAT I THINK SOME BLACKS SHOULD DO BEFORE THEY MAKE A ASS OF THEM SELFS IS READ THE BOOK BY ERVIN L. JORDAN JR.===BLACK CONFEDERATES AND AFRO-YANKEES IN CIVIL WAR VIRGINIA,ALSO BLACK SOUTHERNS IN GRAY,BY RICHARD ROLLINS AN LAST BUT NOT LEAST THE NEGRO IN THE CIVIL WAR BY BENJAMIN QUARLES,DON'T LET THE NAMES FOOL YOU THE WRITERS ARE EDUCATED BLACKS,STOP PLAYING ON RACE AND READ, WE LIKE TO DOWN BLACK AN WHITE BUT WE DON'T DOWN THE GREEN BACK DOLLARS.THE WAR IS OVER SO ARE THE SIT INS OF THE 50 AN 60.WE DIE IN ALL OF AMERICAS WARS THE FREEDOMS WE LOST CAME FROM WITHIN


Steven Elkins - 12/25/00 09:00:00
My Email:steven_elkins@email.com
Ethnicity: European American
Country: US
State: Georgia
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Please tell me how many African Americans can actually relate to slavery? None of you were even born. All of you want to forget about the horrors of slavery, but almost everyday you continue to dig it up. Why?


Tommy Aaron - 12/24/00 12:53:20
My Email:popcortn@yahoo.com
Ethnicity: American
Country: USA
How did you find our page?: Looking for hate groups.
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This is the most hateful page of intolerance I have been too. Praise God most will see it for what it really is. May God save us all from those that would destroy this great country. Tommy Aaron


Brenda Harvey - 12/15/00 21:10:53
My Email:Paradise904308@cs.com
Ethnicity: African-American
Country: USA
State: North Carolina
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I appreciate what you're doing for the African race. Thank you.


Stephanie Coleman - 12/08/00 02:54:16
My Email:kit19139@webtv.net
Ethnicity: african
Country: philadephia
State: pennsylvania
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Adama Ndoeka - 12/07/00 13:52:35
My Email:a_ndoeka@hotmail.com
Ethnicity: African
Country: Sierra Leone
How did you find our page?: Extremely educative and entertaining
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Keep up the good work.


Ronald Jenkins - 12/04/00 10:05:32
My Email:huri@email.msn.com
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Country: Wales
How did you find our page?: web search (google)
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I am second year history student and the "Middle Passage" is a core subject. Contemporary information about this topic is very important in trying to understand the true nature on what must have been terrible experience for the slaves. It is also just as mportant to keep this information available so more people can begin to understand the injustices carried out in the past. Keep up the work. R.J.


Deane Brown - 11/19/00 03:32:52
My Email:brownd@osseo.k12.mn.us
Ethnicity: african american
Country: U.S.
State: Mn.
How did you find our page?: search engine
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It is good to know that important information such as this is available to help students learn the truth about race relations in America.


Keisha - 11/17/00 23:38:48
My Email:kprincess79@hotmail.com
Ethnicity: African-American
Country: US
State: NY
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This is an uplifting & very educational website. Its nice to know that there are sistas & brothas out there who are willing to speak and advocate their views and idealogies, not sugar-coated, but truthfully. As a History major, I can see this website is g ing to be extremely helpful for upcoming papers and projects. Thank you again...


TIMOTHY CATO - 11/14/00 03:36:28
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Country: UNITED STATES
State: S.C
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JUST SHOCKED TO FIND OUT HOW THE WHITE MAN HAS BEEN MANIPULATING OUR PEOPLE ALL THIS TIME.


THOMAS ARMSTRONG - 11/12/00 14:36:25
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Ethnicity: BLACK
Country: U.S.
State: MICHIGAN
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I would like to thank you for this web site and search engine. I came upon your page when searching for a copy of the infamous Willie Lynch speech. I first went to keyword search on AOL and typed in Willie Lynch; to my surprise, there were no results. I as trying to find this speech to share with my girlfriend who had not heard of it. We were watching a Fred Price on television. Dr. price mentioned the Willie Lynch attitude. My girlfriend has never heard of Willie Lynch and curiously asked who was the p rson that the preacher was discussing in his sermon. With a little more work than I thought it should have taken, we found it on your site. The other research engines found no results, Compton’s Columbia, and all of the other Internet encyclopedias selected, produced no results when the Willie Lynch name was entered. I thank you for this much needed research tool.


S. Geger - 11/04/00 21:42:43
My URL:http://www.geocities.com/tcbflash_98
My Email:tcbflash_98@yahoo.com
Ethnicity: Same color blood as yours...RED
Country: United States of America
State: Maryland
How did you find our page?: Surfing through Confederate sites
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First of all, I must compliment you on your site from one webmaster to another. It's beautifully made, easy to navigate, and you certainly do make it known of your opinion. Thank you for welcoming my comment, regardless of what it may be. My opinion is this: The Confederate flag is looked down upon due to the ignorant and idiotic hate groups of today, and those of yesterday. It's truly sad that these groups can influence a society this much, regardless if we are a part of those groups or not. They de ecrade this flag by flying it along side a Swastika. Your views go against the Confederate flag as you compare it to slavery. The South did not represent slavery. This ENTIRE COUNTRY represented slavery, therefore, you must hate the stars and stripes a well. Yes, I fight to allow the Confederate flag to fly. Not only is it because I believe all history should be accounted for, but also because it is my right to fly it, the same right as yours to protest it. Why can't we all realize that there may be some things in life we don't like, or don't agree with...and if we don't like it, don't look at it? Just because we don't like something, does that mean we should fight to take away that person's rights? I'm worried about when the day will come when org nizations will be fighting to lower the stars and stripes as well. After all, it does represent an entire country that utilized slavery. Anyway, I appreciate my comments being welcome. As a fellow American, I wish you good luck in your fight...just as hope you wish me good luck in mine. Feel free to visit my site as well as listed above. It is about the Confederate flag, but you will notice that it was done in very good taste. I invite you to sign my guestbook as well, with any kind of comment or o inion you would like to mention. All comments are welcome, except those of hate. Thank you, and take care.


Gregory X.Townsend - 11/03/00 00:11:35
My URL:http://angelfire.com/biz/youngmenunite.index
My Email:g.x.townsend@usa.net
Ethnicity: black
Country: USA
State: Maryland
How did you find our page?: Willie Lynch Search
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I was the Executive Administrator for Young Men Unite. I wanted to creat black awareness, to show young black men the meaning to be black. To understand why we react the way we do, and do the things we do. In my research my wife stumbled on to Willie L nch, three years ago doing a black history board for the organization. After reading the speech, I made it my mission to make everyone aware of these teaching that have been passed down to white generations without black Americans every knowing this. I as surprised how many educated blacks, with doctorates never heard of Willie Lynch or this speech. So I support your effects and will continue the fight to uplift and free young as well as old black people minds.


nlbender - 11/02/00 20:55:00
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Country: usa
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Good.


asher - 11/01/00 17:48:50
My Email:www.hoffyguy@aol.com
Ethnicity: white
Country: us
State: sc
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great site i can not agree with you more. The flag should be taken down and there should be efforts to change mississippi and alabama flags as well. I think that the article about coke flying the georgia flag is a little over board though.


joe blow - 10/29/00 18:25:49
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My Email:nadda
Ethnicity: REd neck
Country: usa
State: FL
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ya'll suck and the REBEL flag is not a symbol of racism


Andro Tomic - 10/25/00 19:32:41
My Email:ALT1020d1@ecu.edu
Ethnicity: White
Country: U.S.
State: Virginia
How did you find our page?: looking for information on a paper
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You are all a bunch of ignorant pieces of shit. You have no idea what you are talking about. Hardly any southerners during the conferacy owned slaves, they just fought for their country. Because of this you can't imply that everyone in the south during that time was a racist. If you came to where i live and started saying this bullshit you write about, that would be a big mistake. I have a lot more to say to you, but it is a waste of time to tell you everything to a person like yourself.


David Lancaster - 10/23/00 00:40:59
My Email:dlanc@hotmail.com
Ethnicity: Confederate-American
Country: C.S.A.
State: TEXAN via Mississippi
How did you find our page?: Web search looking for inteligent life of any color
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Hey JC, You know that famous speech you like so well from the governor of Virginia. Well why dont you tell people that it was in response to the Northern offers to support slavery in the south if the southern states would not depart the union. Come on JC you present to be an educated man. Therefore you know that a half truth is not the truth at all. By the way your self gratifying use of the pictures of children to spread your propoganda is WRONG!!! The child featured on your guest book page wo ld be more interested in playing cops and robbers with my kids if you were not filling his head with HATE. Of course in your finatical world that was a racist remark i just made.


David Lancaster - 10/22/00 20:39:31
My Email:dlanc@hotmail.com
Ethnicity: Confederate-American
Country: C.S.A.
State: TEXAN via Mississippi
How did you find our page?: Web search looking for inteligent life of any color
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WOW!! I'll recomend this page to anyone with an interest in the subjects covered. Once you get past the birage of propoganda this platform is one of the best i've found at giving each side a voice. (Refering to the guest book) My views for the most part oppose those of J.C. Unfortunatly J.C. has the upper hand in "our America" today so i will take full advantage of the opportunity to state my opinions. First of all to address the endless nonsensical commentary from all the so called "white people" who lack intelect enough to deal with reality. You know who you are. Go back to Africa! The stupidity of that statement rivals that of those made by JC concerning what he calls the Confederate flag. Think about what your saying. If your desire is to cleanse the USA of anyone not Anglo Saxon you will need to start at the b gining. Step one is to return to the middle east to find your own heritage. The distinctive diffrences and for that matter the conflicts between Negroid and Angloid did not occur by accident and should not serve as the axis of your arguments. So in light f that please restrain yourself from insulting your own race by spewing idiological phrases ment to hurt others. I could go on but instead i will spare those of us who know the repeated banging my head against a brick wall. Cant wait to hear all the sugge tive replys that statement will bring. Ni**er(PC?)! Redneck! Wetback! Gook! Say them out loud, spell them out, print banners and run television commercials. None of your efforts will subdue anyone who is angry with you. The fact is if you PISS ME OFF and you happen to be black. Chances are go d that i'll call you a nigger. You would take advantage of any weapon available in a battle wouldn't you JC? Yes, i think you have displayed that with this web page. Realize that a human being has the capacity for hate and at some point it will be used. S op whining and make a sincere effort to progress with those of us who control our instincts and display the traits of a truly superior being. (Not Race) OK! Now to the subject at hand. JC's Confederate flag. FACT The Naval Jack was never commissioned as a flag representing the Confederate States of America. I personally recognize the original Bonnie Blue. FACT Slavery was abolished in the southern states to further demolish its economy and assert control over its people black and white. Thus the nothern states kept their own slaves black and white. FACT The beloved Abraham Lincoln not only made pro slavery statements in his inaugural address. He only sucu ed to the freedom of southern slaves when it was realized that the north would never be able to match the souths ability to provide opportunity for working class people if the two were to split. The northern wealthy whites who produced durable goods on th backs of the lower class whites were the driving force behind freedom of southern black slaves. If you JC believe that the "Rebel Flag" is a symbol of all the injustice perpotrated against blacks. I would suggest that you promote its use in all public forums as a reminder to everyone of your need for special priviledge. Furthermore you must at all osts seek the removal of any whites currently inhabiting the realm of poverty so they are not to be confused as deserving those same priviledges. To sum it all up. JC is no better than the people his imaginary cause is against. So if anyone would like to join JC's cause please be aware of the following. 1) If you attack my heritage, I will fight back! 2) If you are white and believe that you owe the black people(who think like JC) some type of retribution they will accept you only until the time that their race is considered superior to your own 3)If you are black or rather "African-American" you must realize that each cultural entity be it black/white, nothern/southern, Christian/Jew or any other has a past of persicution and hardship. A present struggle toward realizing their own agenda and a f ture that is uncertain accept for the fact that it will come whatever it may be. Final Comments: Please address me as a Confederate-American. Its only fair right? Anyone who would like to discuss, debate or argue either against or for my views is encouraged to email dlanc@hotmail.com "ANY email received from supporters of the NEONAZI bowell movement or the Loony LOUIE he's so FARGONE will receive the SPECIAL NEEDS attention they truly deserve. VISIT NAAWP.com Truly, Dave


Mine - 10/21/00 19:14:29
My URL:http://hometown.aol.com/plumprplzr/myhomepageprofile.html
My Email:plumprplzr@aol.com
Ethnicity: Southern American
Country: America
State: NC
How did you find our page?: Lacking fact, knowledge, compassion, and full of prejudice.
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THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A CIVIL WAR IN AMERICA! a Civil War is a fight between two or more factions for control of a government. Jefferson Davis wanted to take over Washington, no more than George Washington wanted to take over Britain. The second war for i dependece or the "War of Northen Aggression" started because of politicians just like in Vietnam. Here are some quotes for you from the great slave lover Lincoln. During his inaugural address, "I have no purpose, directly or indirectly, to interfere with he institution of slavery in the states where it exists, I believe I have no legal right to do so." In a letter to the New York Daily Tribune during the war he wrote, "My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and it is not either to sav or destroy slavery". A statement shortly after election, "I will say then, that I am not, nor have ever been in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races...I am in favor of having the superior posit on assigned to the white race". Here's one from Gen. Ulysses S. Grant. "If I thought for one moment this conflict was in any manner for the purpose of freeing slaves, I would surrender my sword and resign my commission". We did not fight over slavery th n. Why are we fighting over it today? The "FLAG" every one is upset about NEVER flew over a slave ship, a port of entry, any slave camp or slave sale, or any slave owners property. African kings had been selling their people into slavery for decades be ore the first ones were sold to Americans. Oh and don't forget, there were white slaves sold in America too. The books you read in school were written to teach us what the democratic leaders want us to believe. Under the Southern Government or a true R publican government the states and the people in those states keep the sovereignty. Think about this, if we achieve racial harmony, won't the NAACP go broke and be out of work when big corporations quit sending them billions of dollars to keep hate stirr d up. Americans of all color are being lied to. Find out the truth, it ain't on TV or in the Movies.


- 10/21/00 18:43:59
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mike - 10/21/00 18:42:23
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Ethnicity: Southern American
Country: US
State: MS
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Do symbols of slavery bother you? If so then you and the N.A.A.C.P. need to give back every american dollar you have because every one of them have a picture of American Heroes that had slaves. Want to do away with slavery. Why don't you start with Afri a where slavery still exists in the year 2000. Instead of believing the lies you have been told by our democratic government, read real history and you will find the north didn't care about slaves one way or the other. In fact Lincoln only freed the sla es in southern states after the war. Grant kept his slaves until the 13th amendment went into effect. Southern States were the ones that put the motion on the floor to ban the slave trade. Less than 10% of southern farmers could afford to keep slaves. Over 70,000 black men fought to protect thier land and homes during the war. In New York in 1863 Lincoln's troops publicly hung 83 blacks for refusing to fight the south. History can not be changes. Salvery was a terrible time, but removing a symbol wil not change history. You can not judge the society of the 1800's by the standards of the 21st century. ROOTS was a movie, it was not history. Yes hate groups have used the Confederate flag, but they are not part of our Southern Heritage. They also use he cross as a symbol, want to get rid of it too. Dr. Martin Luther King preached tolerance. Tolerance of all people by all people


Clarence Brown - 10/16/00 15:56:20
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State: MD
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I appluad you brothers and sisters for presenting the agenda so strongly and directly. You will always have detractors, especially those who do not share our background and tradition. Stay strong, stay relevant, stay the course!


Ember - 10/06/00 05:08:58
Ethnicity: white
Country: U.S.
State: Oregon/California
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I read these comments, and read so much hatred. White people have sure committed some horrible atrocities. mm-hmm. So has almost everyone. It's important to remember what has occured, to learn, to try to rectify past wrongs, but it cannot be done thro gh hatred and anger. Hatred is ugly. So very ugly. I am so tired of it. A whole lot of shit happened, and the elapsal of time is no excuse to forget about it, but nor are the original crimes excuses to continue hating. So, white folk, black folk, and all you other-colored folk, think about what's important.


Hope - 09/28/00 23:20:52
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Country: U.S.A.
State: KY
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First of all I would like to say that all of you are obviously very uneducated and do not know enough history to be preaching about this. No one ever says anything about the American Flag but have you ever thought of what flag the slaves were brought to merica under. Yes the stars and strips. What Constitution was written and stated that only land owning whites could vote. Who's Constitution supported slavery in the beginning? Yes America's. What you must realize is the Civil War has been over for abou 135 years. The Civil War wasn't over slavery and Abe Lincoln didn't free anyone. The war was over state's rights and economy. Ending slavery was just one of the results over the war. Further more African-Americans have not been treated the worst of a y people in History. The American Indians have, and you don't hear them complaining about the American Flag that flew against them! You know what I do I fly the Confederate Flag with Dignity not Bigotry. If anyone doesn't like it they can look the othe way. What has happened to Freedom of Speech?!


Michael Victorian - 09/22/00 02:26:18
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Country: United States
State: Louisiana
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Keep fighting for our people.


Jon S. Haas, CLP - 09/20/00 17:34:14
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Interesting site, albeit containing some reversed prejudice! This is a site good for a slanted perspective of Afro-American scene. I will be back to keep learning.


Archie w. Scott - 09/19/00 21:46:18
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Country: USA
State: NC
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We have a long way to go, The black race is truly lost...


Ron Jenkins - 09/15/00 10:07:28
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Thanks for your efforts on this site, information will assist me during my degree course. RJ


Gayle Turner - 09/08/00 15:53:05
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Grateful for the honored title of Guest to the much needed points of light shining through. Thank you.


Djehuti Sundaka - 09/07/00 22:55:19
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Country: Duwamish
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My goodness, with all the comments made concerning the flag issue, you'd think there was nothing else here. The Confederate flag is no less racist than any other flag of European imperialism being called "American". It's really insane how Europeans can ant & rave about "their" heritage and liberty while still in occupation of the American's land whose ancestors were slaughtered for some racist "Manifest Destiny" that the Europeans continue to benefit from. Liberty? Justice? Since when? For who? How "great" would this land be without the benefits of ignoring liberty for conquest and ignoring justice for the exploitation of peoples around the globe? Yet, those who so greatly glory in their atrocities are themselves greatly exploited by their very own government (http://www.taxgate.com). Poetic Justice! Hey Runoko, glad to see you apart of this group. Have you checked out historynotes lately? I've been trying to email you but keep getting the same results of your mailbox being full. Get in touch with me and let me know what's up. As for the rest of you, great site! Keep up the great work. Malik would be proud.


Melody Winters - 09/05/00 12:45:10
My Email:mwinters@cc.memphis.edu
Ethnicity: Italian-American (social category : Black)
Country: USA
State: Tennessee
How did you find our page?: searching for info for research paper for class
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As a person who "grew up" in the late 60's/early 70's, I am please to see that once again people are taking an interest in issues that affect us all (Believe me, it's not just a "black thing" as some people say). Those issues that affect African-American , affect us all (although some people refuse to admit it and/or are too dull to see it). I worked for two seasons at the IRS in Memphis, Tennessee and, unfortunately, found that white supremacists have their hands in our back pockets (this vile "gang" is "in charge" of the Memphis IRS system). While all of my life I argued with those friends who advised me that there exists a genocidal plan against people of African descent, due to my IRS experience, I am aware that this is a (sad and undeniable) fact. I now am aware that there is, indeed, such a plan in place. Thank you for your information and your web page. Melody


saharper - 09/04/00 00:15:27
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Ethnicity: black
Country: usa
State: tx
How did you find our page?: searched for willie lynch
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i am very pleased to have found your web page & hope i could be more informed about solutions to our present day problems as black people in this country.


Rebel - 08/27/00 02:44:21
My Email:Chasec10@aol.com
Ethnicity: white !!!
Country: USA
State: SC
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Screw you the confederate flag should stay up. it does mean any of that bullshit that you blacks and mexicans think it means


Lindsey - 08/24/00 22:43:30
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Ethnicity: white southern teenager
Country: USA
State: VA
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hey I'm doing a speech on this issue for my school and although i totally respect what y'all say, i feel VERY differently. i have a relative (obviously a long time back) and he's buried in S.C. I saw his grave and it has a Confederate flag flying over it. that's really what made me think about this. it's part of me. SLAVERY isn't part of me-- slavery is horrible, everyone knows that. but the south is a part of me. do you think that confederate soldiers raced off to defend slavery? i think not! they wanted o save, to preserve their way of life, which while it included slavery (which, REPEAT, is wrong), was more about family and church and social gatherings. what else is going to serve as a way of showing heritage of the south if not the confederate flag? ar white southerners NOT allowed to show pride in who they are? are they the only ones not allowed to display their heritage? i imagine that most people who fly the flag arent' thinking about slavery (unless it's the KKK or some other sick group) instead th y think about what it means to them. neways, i've put my 2 cents in. maybe i'll stop back sometime and read this page again. it's certainly...BOLD. just think about this....


- 08/23/00 20:19:17
My Email:Overmind587@aol.com
Ethnicity: german/irsih
Country: USA
State: VA
How did you find our page?: from another person who thinks its bullshit
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this is the most bullshit i have ever seen no wonder everytime someone sees a confederate flag it must be racist because thats what people like you teach to people who dont know any better


LuDz - 08/23/00 17:50:39
My Email:ItsLuDz@aol.com
Ethnicity: Is this really important, am I going to be judged on my color.......great here we go again....another color issue.......well I do not care, I am a prould European American, but I am not a BIGOT.....I do not hate Black, Asians, Hispanics, Indians, any race......
Country: USA
State: Virginia
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Well, I have noticed certain things lately in my life. I am 17 years of age and about to turn 18. In one month of this post I will be a legal adult in the government's eyes. My life has changed over the past 5 years. I started to pick up on the prejud ce of this country. People say that Black people are the most oppressed in the entire world. That they deserve more than others, because of being slaves. Well I have a lot of Black friends that think it is a little stupid. They said its all in the pas and they would rather get on with their lives than sit and worry about something that ended a long time ago. Now I know slavery was extremly wrong. In every view it was immoral. It should not be practiced anymore, and people who support it need their eads screwed on straight. The KKK is an organization that has mislead people with the Confederate Flag. The Confederate Flag is a symbol of American Independence. Now I have read all the articles about Slavery on this site and I understand. Slavery wa an issue, but you can not deny states rights in the subject. At the time before the war, the south was not doing too well economically. They lacked workers, because of the industrial revolution in America. Most people were leaving and moving north to ities to work in factorys. This but the south in its own depression. Not to mention the North was being completely unfair about representation. The north possessed Slavery in some states at the time. Asians, Hispanics, and even Whites are discrimnated too. Believe it or not if you do not have a number of one race working at a job then you must hire a person from that race. Even if they are not as qualified as a person of another race. Since when did we care what race you were in a business. It is j st your qualifications. Your race has nothing to do with it. Your skills, determination, and life effects it. I know discrimination in the south continued after the civil war for a long time. Hell look at all the sit-ins. People refused to serve blac people. This was insane, different bathrooms, and different water fountains. Now a lot of people would like the confederate flag to be outlawed. It is american history and should be kept, maybe the all the morals were wrong, but that is over and the l gacy has evolved. The flag is an example of unfair justice in america. So being true americans like they were, the south seceeded from the union. A lot of people say that it was wrong to rebel agaisnt their country. Cough Cough.........take the USA le ving England. I guess that was ok , unless you were England. People don't see it that way. They say that America was treated unfair. Well look at the south. It was the same problem and so the south did what the USA did back in 1776, they left. The f ag should be kept as a rememberence of a country that was not afraid to stand up for its rights. That legacy of standing up is a big moral of people of this great country we call the United States of America. Martin Luther King stood up for his rights, nd he gave his life for the civil rights movement. He was a true american. No matter what your other morals are your one true cause will always stand out. The souths main cause was not to keep slavery so it could hurt black people, it was the economy. Do not get me wrong slavery had a lot to do with it, but the south just wanted independence. Keep the flag flying as a reminder of what happened all those years ago, because if we get rid of the flag, then the lack of information about the south could ma e people think in the distant future that slavery of any group is wrong. Now I will probably get hate emails about all this, but I am up for it. If you are going to leave a feedback about this do not trash me or my so called "race". I would be glad to iscuss this with you. Well in one month I will become 18 and then from what other adults say, then I will understand everything. Well I hope that this is true, because I want to know why this keeps happening. And If we do not stop soon, it could tear t e country apart by its colors. -Brandon Jordan McGhee, Colonial Heights High School


Belle - 08/19/00 01:46:42
Ethnicity: white
Country: USA
State: Georgia
How did you find our page?: looking for a picture of my flag
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I don't know where your history book was printed, but how dare you suggest that the Civil War was fought over slavery! It was a government issue. The Union was neglecting the South, not providing representation for it's people, slave or otherwise, and g nerally oppressing ALL people in the south, not just black, but white as well. Check your facts, and you will see that not only black people were slaves, but white as well. There were many Irish slaves. I know this to be a fact as most of my ancestors ere slaves. Yes there were white slave owners, but there were black slave owners too. The War was fought to generally make a better life for those in the South. Did you also know that the North wanted to be able to have slaves? Did you know that there were slave owners in the North? The Confederate Flag was a symbol of southern heritage that was exploited by a bunch of bigots, namely the Ku Klux Klan. Check your facts and you will discover that the KKK orginally began as a group of men that were aven ing the beating of a townswoman by her husband. And, he was WHITE! Yes, there are those people that use the Flag as a symbol of hatred, but it is NOT how the Flag intended. And sir, before you get on your soapbox, please make sure your facts are correc . How ignorant you look blaming the Civil War on slavery.

Editor's Note:

If you read the article below you'll see that the war was indeed fought to preserve the institution of slavery:

The piece below is a speech from the pre-Civil War governor of Virginia. He is talking about conditions required to avoid secession. You don't need to be a super genius to figure out that every condition he states is about SLAVERY and ITS RESERVATION. I agree, he wants control. But control for what: Control over slavery and freedom to enslave and keep his slaves in bondage. He is saying that no one should interfere with slavery, period. If you read the secession documents of the other stat s that joined he Confederacy, you'll see the same issues and complaints. The southern aristocracy wanted to continue getting rich by enslaving blacks. It was a highly inefficient system. Northern, non-slave agriculture was many times more productive. The ast majority of southern citizens did not directly benefit from slave ownership. But those who controlled the Southern economy and the press would rather have a war than to let go of their slaves and the wealth they produced. And, again, I assert that the average white in the pre-Civil War south went to war to tell those "Yankees" that the collective "We" can do as "We" please with our dark people. That is where the control issue comes into play. But even that was motivated by racism. There was no way they could contemplate equality with blacks. That is the fear spread by racist landowners to control the thinking of the masses of whites. That divide and control game is the same that has been effectively played since white and blacks were in servitude togeth r in the English colonies of the 1600's and 1700's.


This is lifted from the link below and reprinted for your convenience: http://members.aol.com/jfepperson/letcher.html

In early January, 1861, Gov. John Letcher called Virginia's legislature into special session to consider, among other things, whether or not to call a secession convention. The Jan. 8 issue of the Richmond Enquirer contained a long speech hich Gov. Letcher made to the legislature at the opening of this special session. During this speech Letcher, normally characterized as opposed to secession, gave a list of six conditions which he believed could relieve the growing secession crisis. I am ndebted to Steve Miller of the University of Maryland for sending me a photocopy of Letcher's speech, from which this excerpt is taken.

Virginia Gov. John Letcher's Conditions for Settlement — [Conditions under which Virginia would consider not seceding from the Union]

What, then, is necessary to be done? The Northern States must strike from their statute books their personal liberty bills, and fulfill their constitutional obligations in regard to fugitive slaves and fugitives from justice. If our slaves escape into on-slaveholding states, they must be delivered up; if abandoned, depraved, and desperately wicked men come into slave States to excite insurrections, or to commit other crimes against our laws, and escape into free States, they must be given up for trial nd punishment, when lawfully demanded by the constituted authorities of those States whose laws have been violated.

Second --- We must have proper and effective guarantees for the protection of slavery in the district of Columbia. We can never consent to the abolition of slavery in the district, until Maryland shall emancipate her slaves; and not then, unless it sha l be demanded by the citizens of the district.

Third --- Our equality in the States and Territories must be fully recognized, and our rights of person and property adequately protected and accrued. We must have guarantees that slavery shall not be interdicted in any Territory now belonging to, or w ich hereafter may be acquired by, the general government; either by the Congress of the United States or by the Territorial Legislature: that we shall be permitted to pass through the free States and Territories without molestation, and if a slave shall b abducted, that the State in which he or she shall be lost, shall pay the full value of such slave to the owner.

Fourth --- Like guarantees must be given, that the transmission of slaves between the slaveholding States, either by land or water, shall not be interfered with.

Fifth --- The passage and enforcement of rigid laws for the punishment of such persons in the free States as shall organize, or aid and abeit in organizing, either by the contribution of money, arms, munitions of war, or in any other mode whatsoever, c mpanies of men, with a view to assail the slaveholding States, and to excite slaves to insurrection.

Sixth --- That the general government shall be deprived of the power of appointing to local offices in the slaveholding States, persons who are hostile to their institutions, or inimical to their rights -- the object being to prevent the appointing pow r from using patronage to sow the seeds of strife and disunion between the slaveholding and non-slaveholding classes in the Southern States.

These guarantees can be given without prejudice to the honor or rights, and without a sacrifice of the interest, of either of the non-slaveholding states. We ask nothing, therefore, which is not clearly right and necessary for our protection: And surel , when so much is at stake, it will be freely, cheerfully and promptly assented to. It is the interest of the North and South to preserve the Government from destruction, and they should omit the use of no proper or honorable means to avert so great a cal mity. The public safety and welfare demand instant action.




kevin wade - 08/11/00 14:26:25
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Country: usa
State: texas
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i wish there was a little more detail


Jeb - 08/07/00 23:59:51
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State: PA
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IT MUST GO THE MISSISSIPPI CONGRESS SHOULD NOT HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THE ISSUE


Jack Crawford - 08/07/00 16:56:51
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Ethnicity: African from America
Country: US
State: SC
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I direct this message to Ashlyn:

I think you might consider deep meditation. Your statement that African-Americans should go back to Africa where they "belong" is totally ignorant and wrong. No one made this country the exclusive domain of Europeans. Who invited you to come here? Africans have made every contribution necessary to claim ownership of this land as any white person standing up in America today. Africans have sacrificed 400 years of freedom through slavery here and in other parts of the Americas. Africans have shed blood on every battlefield, including the first recognized casualty of the Revolutionary War, Crispus Attucks. Africans have contributed many inventions and cultural contributions.

No, I think you need to rethink your life purpose. Where do you get your gall, your chutzpah, your balls to say something so heinous? Your ignorance is just overwhelming. If you don't like our position regarding the flag, just say so. But take your ignorant idea about where my people belong and put it where the sun don't shine.

It's not productive.



rebal - 08/06/00 06:41:38
My Email:uthinkiamracist@butiamnot.com
Country: usa
State: ill
How did you find our page?: reserching the civil war
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the flag should stay and boycotting coke is the dumbest thing i have ever heard the confederate flag will always fly proudly somewhere so GET OVER IT


Ashlyn - 08/04/00 05:59:03
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Ethnicity: white southern and proud rebel
Country: us
State: sc
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i think u are sooo wrong. the flag should stay up! it doesnt mean slavery or anything else like that. it stood for th souths right to do what it wants. i believe slavery was and is VERY WRONG! did u know that the north made the south set their slaves free but half the north got to keep theirs. if the african americans have a problem with the flag they should just go back to africa where they belong.


- 07/21/00 16:14:45
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Mike - 07/20/00 17:12:43
Ethnicity: Only a racist would want to identify me by my color. Please don't judge me by the color of my skin.
Country: The United States of America - Proudly
State: I see this question as another opportunity for the reader to pre-judge me according to my region. Please don't pursue regional bigotry. We all know that some people pass judgment on others according to their "heritage."
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In 1854, there were enough people who were sick and tired of the oppression of slavery, that they formed a new political party whose sole purpose was to free the slaves. These were people who believed in freedom, which even exceeded that which was prescri ed by our founding fathers. They wanted every living breathing human being to be free of oppression. They knew that everyone deserved an equal opportunity at the “American Dream.” The Republican Party was formed on these principles in 1854. The Republican Party was formed to abolish slavery. They succeeded, but with horrible losses to all of the people of America. Men and women of all ethnicities were devastated. The division between the people of our greatest nation almost destroyed us. Tha k God that didn't happen. Slavery had existed in America for over 200 years, and it existed under the American flag. The Republicans, under Abraham Lincoln, defeated slavery. The southern Democrats didn’t only lose the war; most of them lost major potions of their families. It was the war in which men killed their very own brothers. As individuals chose to side wi h either the Republicans of the north, or the Democrats of the south, families were divided, and brother, fathers, and sons KILLED EACH OTHER. We have all heard that what doesn't kill you can only make you stronger. Well, we tore the fabric of our nation to shreads. In fact, we tore so deep as to expose the very soul of our people. We slaughtered each other like we have never done to others. If e are to learn from our mistakes, we must always be aware of them. If we as a people choose national amnesia as the politically correct stance, then we are destined to repeat our mistakes. The Confederate flag is one of innumerable pieces of American history. We must always be honest in the recording and remembrance of our history. Don’t try to tell me that Confederate flag is not worthy of an extremely prominent place. It may not be olitically correct, but it is intellectually honest because it is historically accurate. It signifies the most devastating experience in the history of the United States of America. It also serves as a reminder to all of those who died in the bloodiest wa in our history; the war against ourselves. If we had destroyed ourselves from within, we wouldn’t have been there to save the entire world from Nazi rule. From what I have heard, Nazis didn't take too kindly to African-Americans, or ANYBODY of color, or hardly anybody for that matter. Chance are, YOU probably don’t even meet the pure Arian standards; I sure don’t. America took itself to hell and back, and we learned from our mistakes. Only forty-nine years later we were able to establish ourselves as a major world power and help o end the First World War (which started as kind of a European civil war). Only twenty-two years after that we stretched our might across both seas and ended the “global” civil war, known as World War Two. We saved the entire world from global domination by the most racist, intolerant, vicious, AND DIVISIVE leader we have ever seen. We Americans learned from our mistakes. The Civil War was still fresh enough in our collective memory to remind us of the atrocities, which are inherent with racism. Instead of looking at the Civil War from a geographical standpoint, please take a moment to view it from an ideological one. As I stated before, the Republican Party was formed to abolish slavery, and they succeeded. For nearly a century after the Civil W r, southern Democrats continued to oppress African-Americans through segregation. By the 1960s, the Republicans were again at odds with the Democrats over the treatment of African-Americans. The Republicans began the fight for civil rights for people of a l colors, and the Republicans passed the Civil Rights Act of 1964 opposed by the dominantly democratic Southerners. Once again, the Republicans have tried to give ALL PEOPLE the opportunity to live free and pursue the American dream. So many people today are mentioning that South Carolina only raised the Confederate flag over the state capitol in 1962. The press conveniently leaves out the fact that it was South Carolina’s Democrat Governor Ernest Hollings who raised the flag. G vernor Ernest Hollings of 1962 is now Senator “Fritz” Hollings, Democrat South Carolina. Is anybody surprised to know that the Confederate flag still flies over the capitols of Clinton’s Arkansas, and Gore’s Tennessee in the year 2 00? Where is the outrage? In 1992 a survey was taken of the Washington Press Corp, in which 91% of them admitted to being liberal Democrats, and 89% of them admitted to voting for the Clinton/Gore ticket. This is the same press that is pressing the flag issue to the boiling point. The other day my best friend gave me the impression that he viewed me as possibly having a racist bone in my body because I think that the flag should be allowed to fly. That hurt, but I realize that all of us (my friend included) are under assault from t e admittedly liberal Democratic press. They are distorting the issue for a number of reasons. First of all, because controversy sells newspapers, and nothing grabs attention like a good fight. Another reason is their admitted support for liberal Democrats yes, the same Democrat Party that fought to maintain slavery and the same party that fought against civil rights for minorities. They lost both of those fights, and now they are waging a new battle. The have only confused the message, but they are still sing the same methods they have always used to keep some minorities down, poverty, dependence, and lack of education. Ever since the passage of The Civil Rights Act, they have devised and supported programs, which are inherently captive. Ask anybody in th projects if they feel liberated. Throughout history many leaders have known that if they can keep the masses at each other’s throats, the masses will always look to their leaders to mediate and keep the peace. History refers to this as the “divide and conquer” technique It has been used for thousands of years. It is a tried and true method of domination over the people. How short peoples’ memories are. The Democrats are at it again. They have been the majority in the Congress for forty years, and now that they are losing their grip, they are getting desperate. The most fundamental premise of the Democratic Party is all that they “give” to minorities…LIE! Democrats historically fought against minorities. They have lost the battle to the Republicans from the Civil War to the Civil rights Act of 1964. In their desperation, they have come up with a new form of oppression; it’s called government assistance. You see, the problem with most of the supposed assistance that the government offers is tha it is only enough to keep the oppressed alive to vote. They live in sub-standard housing, go to sub-standard schools, and are issued only enough money to survive. If they work they lose benefits, if they marry, they lose benefits. As long as they are not receiving the same levels of education and opportunities as everyone else they will remain the downtrodden. Unfortunately, too many of our government assistance programs are designed to keep us down. As an example, why is it that if a young single mother ants to get married she will lose some of her benefits, and her government assistance checks will be reduced? If she decides to get married anyway, she and her husband will be taxed an additional $1400 per year. The government will also increase payments o any single mothers who have additional children out of wedlock. Doesn’t that seem as though the creators of these programs penalize what most people see as part of the dream? I have heard that there is a political cliché that states “keep th masses ignorant.” If they are ignorant, they are dependant. That is the reason slaves were not allowed to read. Please continue reading this. They are once again trying to divide the people of America. The Confederate flag issue is only one of a multitude of divisive issues that they throw at us. Democratic leaders are using the (dominantly liberal democrat) press and the (dominantly liberal de ocrat) teachers union to drive a wedge between people. Unfortunately, they have chosen a symbol of American history as their wedge. The Confederate flag, like it or not, IS one of the most recognizable symbols of American tragedy, no matter what color you are. To bury our heads in the sand will not make it go away. To some it symbolizes oppression; to others it symbolizes freedom; and still to others it symbolizes loss and sacrifice. To EVERYONE, it is a part of our history; there is no denying that. Remem er, when Sherman marched to the sea, he destroyed everything in his path. Everything that he destroyed was the property of the southerners. THEY WERE CRUSHED, AND SLAUTERED!!! To some, the confederate flag serves as a memorial to the south. The Oklahoma bombing is another horrible event in American history. It wasn’t a statement of pride or joy for ANYONE, yet we built a memorial for it? Memorials are not usually intended to make us happy, nor are they expected to please everyone. They are intended to help us to remember. That is the only way to learn. There are four stages of education. The first three are discovery, validation, and realization. First we must discover something that we were previously unaware of. Second we must test the validity of the theory and/or hypothesis. Third we must come to a ecision as to the truth based on the findings of our test. These stages of education are used by a child who is learning the correct way to spell a word, by the scientist who is working on the creation of a new form of energy, and by the people who are cr ating the governing laws for a society. There is also a fourth stage; it is remembrance. What good is any knowledge if we don’t remember it? The child writes the word on paper over and over. They may circle the correct spelling, but a good student w ll save the previous attempts so that they remember how NOT to do it wrong again. The scientist conducts experiments and records the results. If he doesn’t record the results of his failed experiments, he is destined to repeat them again. The same is true for an evolutionary form of government. We must be intellectually honest and face the truth of the discoveries that we have made as a society. We must admit our failings as well as our victories. Collective amnesia will not allow us to gr w as a society; intellectual honesty will. We cannot rewrite history, nor should we forget it. Damned is anyone who tries to hide from the mistakes of their past. They will be guaranteed to repeat them. Let the flag fly and be seen for what it is, a memor . Let us stop fighting each other over symbolism. Let us only allow historical accuracy. Let us grow together with intellectual honesty. How else can we learn to be better humans?


brian edmonds - 07/15/00 03:37:07
Ethnicity: white
Country: usa
State: TEXAS
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I think that you should lighten up if the white pepole who like the flag for pride of the south and that is what i think of it as and i think that you should not target the flag but the rasest sons of biches who are racest


brian edmonds - 07/15/00 03:34:38
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Country: usa
State: TEXAS
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D. Beard - 07/14/00 03:14:04
My Email:wolfcraz@yahoo.com
Ethnicity: WHITE
Country: USA
State: Alabama
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Comments:
You all are full of shit. You people want so badly to find something to bitch about. Truth be known the blacks are no longer minorities. They practically rule this country. And now they want to take down the Confederate Flag? You all are crazy. I th nk we should have a Robert E. Lee Day or a Stonewall Jackson Day or a Robert E. Lee Boulevard in every damn city like they have a Martin Luther King, Jr. Boulevard everywhere you go. How come the white people can't be proud of their heritage like the bla ks or the other races? There is no longer slavery in the Southern States so why treat us like we still have the blacks in chains? I dont see the Confederate flag as a symbol of hate,racism, or slavery. It is a symbol of the dedication of the South duri g the Civil War. And for your information......according to my American History professor and my own research......the Civil War was not fought over slavery,it was only a small factor. The Civil War was fought because the United States government kept p tting more and more restrictions on the southern states (industry, etc.)and not on the northern states. There were many great men who fought during the Civil War and the flag represents their heroism on and off the battlefield. So before you go spoutin off about how the Confederate flag symbolizes slavery and keeping the "black man" down maybe you should do a little research.


Jennifer - 07/13/00 01:09:49
My URL:http://www.expage.com/page/jenfurs
My Email:js21465@wcu.edu
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Country: USA
State: NC
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I'm just a student going through my second year of college. And I am doing my research paper on why the Confederate Flag should fly. It seems to me that someone can analyze anything in life to the point that you can find something wrong with anything. mean, if you look for trouble or something bad chances are you'll probably find it. Yeah, I guess one could find something wrong with the flag, this world is not perfect. I agree there was probably some hatred towards blacks, but the time is NOW. Slav ry is all in the past, like many other things. It is very immature for someone to conclude that the flag symbolizes slavery when it can symbolize anything to someone else. It is part of history, it should remain that way. What is this world coming to? People shouldn't jump to conclusions when they see a confederate flag, don't be so immature. You need to worry about your family, about keeping your children off drugs, and most of all, LOVE. Just be happy please because when I get out of college and ha e a family I don't want my children to see how immature adults are. We need to set a better example for the future. What is the problem anyways? Most of the black people I talk to have the same opinion as me. It's very sad.


HUMPTY - 07/11/00 15:19:59
My URL:http://AMISHRAKEFIGHT.ORG/GFY
My Email:HUMPTY11885@ANGELFIRE.COM
Ethnicity: CAUCASIAN
Country: C.S.A.
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I HAVE READ BASICALLY THE ENTIRE GUESTBOOK, AND I MUST SAY, I AM SICKENED, OFFENDED AND UDDERLY DIGUSTED BY DOING SO. I FIND IT SAD AND MORALLY WRONG FOR SOME OF THE ENTRIES TO EVEN BE IN HERE. THE REBEL FLAG DOESN'T STAND FOR RACISM, SUPREMACY, OR ANYTHI G TO THAT SORT. IT STANDS FOR PEOPLE HAVING BALLS TO STAND UP FOR WHAT THEY WANT, AND ALSO IT STANDS FOR THE SOUTH. I WAS BORN IN CHARLOTTE, NORTH CAROLINA. I AM A REBEL, ALWAYS WILL BE. THE MEANING TO THIS IS, THAT I DON'T LIKE SLAVERY, NEVER HAVE, JUST THAT I WAS BORN IN A STATE THAT IS IN THE SOUTH, AND HAD THEY WON THE WAR, I WOULD NOT BE HERE. I AM IRISH-ITALIAN, AND MY PARENTS AND ALL OF MY ANCESTORS BEFORE THEM LIVED IN THE NORTH. SINCE I HAVE NOTHING FURTHER TO SAY, I WILL LEAVE EVERYONE WITH THIS. ALL I CAN SAY IS, I TAKE NO SIDES-BUT MY OWN. RACISM AND SUPREMACY ARE NOT IMPORTANT. ONLY LIFE, SO LIVE IT THE FUCK UP, DUMBASSES.... LIVE YOUR LIVES, ENJOY THEM, AND DON'T CAUSE HARM TO OTHER PEOPLE(EMOTIONALLY OR PHISICALLY). LEAVE THE FLAG ALONE, IT I A PEICE OF CLOTH, AND IT DOESN'T HURT PEOPLE. THE WAR IS OVER, AND AFTER A WHILE, THE KKK SHALL BE THE SAME WAY. ALL KKK MEMBERS, ARE MINDLESS, ILLITERATE, ASS FUCKERING REDNECK HICKS, WHO HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO THAN CHEW TOBACCO, AND USE INCORRECT GR MMAR.THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, AND FUCK RACISM.


WILLA THOMAS - 07/03/00 17:02:15
My Email:willat_bh@yahoo.com
Ethnicity: North American multiracial
Country: United States
State: PA
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I would like Email addresses for the people whose names appear in your site.


jane again - 07/02/00 01:44:37
Ethnicity: black
Country: usa
State: florida
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this page is sick, no wonder white people hate us.


jane again - 07/02/00 01:40:17
Ethnicity: black
Country: usa
State: florida
How did you find our page?: metacrawler
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i wanted to add that sometimes i disagree with the NAACP. sometimes they are too headstrong and don't think. they are so quick to call everything racist. Like the guy who had to be executed in texas. we all know texas is hang em and hang 'em high so why b ther fighting it. plus guess who is the governor?? c'mon. also, i don't think that the execution was RACIST he committed a crime! he must pay. he wasn't an altar boy. he has assulted many people in texas. the NAACP can use its strong voice elsewhere, in o her causes.


jane - 07/02/00 01:36:21
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I am black and i live in florida: HOWEVER, i believe that IDEALLY the confederate flag should be a symbol that commemorates the civil war soldiers and southern pride and states rights, but we don't live in an idealisitic society and the flag has become a acists symbol, DON"T SAY IT ISN"T BECAUSE THE KKK USES IT! it is and it strikes terror in my heart and it actually makes me feel sick to my stomach every time i see it at a demonstration or even just on the back of someones truck. i believe that the flag HOULD ONLY BE USED TO COMMEMORATE CIVIL WAR HEROES and yes, people some of them were black. there were black rebel soldiers too. thats what i think im stickin' to it. so peace out and shut up.


Rick - 07/01/00 21:06:03
My Email:man4alczns@aol.com
Ethnicity: white
Country: USA
State: CA
How did you find our page?: surfing
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I agree. The State of South Carolina should take down their flag. Just as soon white support groups that mirror the NAACP are not considered "racist" merely because they engage in the business pride for northern european heritage. They should take down the flag, as doon as the mayor of Detroit retracts his ignorant statement that "....only white people CAN be racist!" My friend, the white populace is qetting very sick and tired of this "battle Hymm of Discrimination!"


Adam Bazemore (a good son of a Confederate Veteren) - 06/30/00 06:18:19
Ethnicity: white
Country: C.S.A(if you know what I mean)
State: Georgia
How did you find our page?: I typed "Confederate Flag" in a search box on the internet
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First of all the war was not about slavery, because 300,000 union soilders owned slaves. Most Confederate soilders had never seen a slave. Robert E. Lee(a great and godly man who feared god)(the South's leading commander)inherited slaves in a will and the first day of the inheritance he freed every slave. Ulesses S. Grant (the north's leading commander) owned slaves 7 years after the war ended. The war was fought over tariffs & taxes, state's rights, and the communistic governmental control over the people One reason for the war: The U.S. Government gave the South a 40% tax increase. Us poor Southern folks were just minding our own buisness. Not ONE ship left the South and brought back slaves!!!! Great Britian and Yankees are the people who shiped the blac s to America. And guess what flag they were flying; the American flag. The American flag flew over 224 years of legal slavery while the Confederate flag flew over 4. When the white men came to Africa they didn't have nooses and guns or could they run thro gh the thick jungles to capture the blacks; the blacks were already enslaved by there own people. Those people sold them to the white men. If y'all want to complain y'all should go to Africa and complain to the blacks over there who sold y'all. Just becau e the KKK uses the Confederate flag does not mean that every person who flies the flag or believes in the South is a racist or Suprimmucist. The KKK flies the American flag also. So why aren't you attacking that flag. In the Bible the Jews were enslaved f r over 400 years by Africans where they raped the white women and were beating the brains out of the jewish babies and feeding their bloody carcuses to the crocodiles (that's what was happening when Moses was born). When you were enslaved in America you m y have been reaping what you sowed. The Confederate flag is actually a Christian flag because the blue cross on the flag was the cross St. Andrew(one of Jesus's first desciples)died on. They choose that cross because he was willing to die for what he beli ved in without changing his beliefs. When you attack this flag you are attacking God. If you want to attack a flag you are attacking the wrong flag Mr. The American flag is guilty under your list. While your ancestors were picking cotton mine where waddle ng in their own guts and blood. We faught for it so let us keep it!! You can have your Malcom X as long as you let us have our flag. You have your X I have mine. You are not trying to erase your history, you're trying to erase mine, besides; you can't era e history.


- 06/23/00 17:40:18
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How to Make an Economic or Ghetto Slave: A Lesson for the New Millennium by Wille Linch III Building on my great-grandfather's work, we can see how we can continue to reap profits from the Blacks without the effort of physical slavery. We will focus on the current methods of containment that they use on themselves: 1. Ignorance 2. Greed 3. Selfishness The ignorance of blacks is the primary weapon of containment. A great man once said, "the best way to hide something from a black is to put it in a book". This statement is so true. We currently live in an information age. Blacks have gained the opportunity to read any book on any subject through the efforts of their fight for freedom and integration yet; they refuse to read. There are numerous books readily available at Borders, Barnes & Noble and Amazon.com that would help them reach economic equality (what should have been their fight all along), however, very few of them read consistently if at all. As long as we continue to publish books for our benefit and keep books, computers and the Internet out their hands we will never see the masses of them rise above the slums and projects. My great-great-grandfather said, "For example, you take the slave, if you teach him all about your language, he will know all your secrets, and he is then no more a slave, for you can't fool him any longer and having a fool is one of the basic ingredients of and incidents to the making of the slavery system." The masses of them are fools because they don't read. They will never figure out that we have all the information a person needs to succeed in America in the books, magazines and newspapers we read all the time. Greed is another powerful weapon of containment. Blacks since the abolishment of slavery have had large amounts of money at their disposal. Last year they spent 9 billion dollars during Christmas and represent about 450 billion dollars in purchasing power. That will easily allow any of us to use them as our target market for any business venture. Being a primarily consumer people they function totally by greed. They continually want more without any regard for saving or investing. They would rather buy some new sneaker than invest in starting a business or community development organization. Some will even neglect their children to have the latest Tommy or FUBU. They still think that having a Mercedes and big house in the middle of the ghetto gives them some "status" or that they have achieved the American dream. They are fools. The vast majority of their people are still in poverty. Living in slums, projects and run-down homes. What have they achieved? Their greed holds them back from making better communities for themselves. With the help of BET and the rest of their black media, we will continue to see huge profits like those of Tommy and Nike. They will continue to congregate in their "buppie" communities and slums trying to show off to each other while we build solid communities with the profits from our businesses. Some would argue that this last method is the most powerful one of the three. Selfishness, ingrained in their minds through slavery, is one of the major ways we can contain them in a slave status. We all know that any group united under one vision can accomplish anything. The Bible shows that even God acknowledged in the Tower of Babel story that a people united can accomplish anything. With this said, we understand that the most effective way to keep them contained is to create divisions among blacks as a people. One of their own, Dubois said that there was an innate division in their culture. A "Talented Tenth" he called it. He was correct in his deduction that there are segments of their culture that has achieved some "form' of success, however, that segment missed the fullness of his work, (they don't read) that Talented Tenth was then responsible to aid the Non-Talented Ninety Percent in achieving a better life. Instead, that segment has created another class, a buppie class that looks down on their people or aids them in a condescending manner through various community and fraternal organizations. The selfishness of the buppie class and the "it's all about me" attitude that is prevalent throughout their people has caused them to isolate both classes and caused them as a whole to achieve nothing great for themselves in the form of solid communities, business or economic empowerment. They will never achieve what we have. Their selfishness does not allow them to be able work together on any project or endeavor of substance or when they do get together their selfishness lets egos get in the way of the goal. Their so-called help organizations, with large budgets and some existing for almost a hundred or more years, seem to only want to promote their name without making any real change to the communities in which they live. They are content to sit in conferences and conventions and talk about what they will do and award the best speakers a plaque. Is their no end to their selfishness? I doubt it. They lack essential information for combating selfishness and that is that Together Each Achieves More. They do not understand that they are no better than each other because of what they own. Most of those buppies are one or two paychecks away from poverty. All of which is under the control of our pens in our offices and boardrooms. Yes, we the will continue to contain them as long as we keep them from reading, let them buy anything they want and keep them thinking that they are really "helping" their communities buying paying dues to some organization. By the way, don't worry about any of them reading this letter, remember, they don't read.


just me - 06/19/00 14:14:55
My Email:kluxx@hotmail.com
Ethnicity: white
Country: usa
Comments:
IN AUGUST OF 2000, A NI**ER WILL BE LYNCHED, IT WILL BE FILMED, AND RELEASED TO THE JEWS-MEDIA! ABOUT THE SAME TIME SOME GOOD MARKSMEN CARRYING SILENCED RIFLES WITH FLAT TRAJECTORIES OF THE HUNTING TYPE WILL SHOOT OUT SOME POWERLINES/TRANSFORMERS IN KEY P INTS IN NIGGER INFESTED CITIES!! THE NIGGERS, ANIMALS THAT THEY ARE, WILL RIOT IN THE 90 DEGREEE PLUS WEATHER AND THE SHIT WILL HIT THE FAN!!! THIS IS NO JOKE!! WHITE PATRIOTS, PREPARE TO DEFEND YOUR FAMLIES, GET FOOD, WATER, MEDICAL SUPPLIES, ETC... READ !!! THE BULLSH*T PROJECTION OF 52% WHITE IN THE USA IN 2050 IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN!! EVEN IF IT MEANS THE ECONOMIC DESTRUCTION OF THE USA!!! THE USA IS NOT ONLY A RACIAL TENDERBOX, IT IS ALSO VERY F*CKING VULNERABLE TO ATTACK OF KEY AREAS-AND 1/3 THE USA S FAT!!!!!!!!!! WON'T TAKE MUCH TO TAKE IT DOWN!!! YOU ARE WARNED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


joe klux - 06/19/00 14:01:35
My Email:kluxx@hotmail.com
Ethnicity: what do ya think?
Country: usa
State: kkk
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The race war is coming!!! Get your food, h2o and all the other sh*t you need to survive! Ni**ers are only 12% of the population but 80% of the problem!! THE RACE WAR IS COMING!!! NO IF, NO ANDS, NO BUTTS!!! Nigz need to be exterminated once and for all!!! !!!!!! Like the subhuman bastrds they are!!!


octavia robinson - 06/17/00 07:05:37
My Email:Otay21@webtv.net
Ethnicity: black
Country: united states
State: ny
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thanks for having this info available.More of our people need to read this and understand where our problems truly come from,so that we can make the necessary changes.If you have any more insightful documents,feel free to email me.


donald - 06/04/00 19:53:41
Ethnicity: white
Country: USA
State: SC
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I dont know where you get off wanting to OUTLAW our confederate flag. That is more than a piece of cloth..its our heritage. If you want to argue the flag is racist...then take down Old Glory..our national flag. Slavery existed under old glory long before t EVER was associated with the confederate battel flag. Us southerners display that flag with dignity and its ass holes like you that ruin the real meaning behind the flag. The civil war ended 135 + years ago..and you still want to believe there is some r ason youre oppressed. Give me a break. How long does it take to get your act together. Stop using our flag as an excuse to blame your shortcomings. We as the people in SC, love our flag and you better never forget it!!!! Fly it high in CAROLINA!! SCREW TH NAACP...they suck!!! Your page sucks too by the way.


Southern Girl - 06/02/00 01:10:00
Ethnicity: white
Country: usa
State: SOUTH CAROLINA
How did you find our page?: in the ridicolously pathetic section
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First of all, i have heard many points that make for a good case to bring down the flag. your arguement includes none of them. My family is from ireland, you don't hear me bitching because some relative of mine a hundred years ago was kept down by the b itish do you. no, because it does not affect me. just like slavery does not affect you today. do you have whip marks on your back? okay then. Another point, the attack on the georgia flag, please. it took this long to get something done about the Confederate flag, so get over it.


Asher Glass - 05/31/00 21:17:28
My Email:asher_glass@yahoo.com
Ethnicity: White
Country: United States
State: Kentucky (went to college in SC)
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I completely agree with J.C.'s article. I also feel that the fact that the rebel flag was not raised above the capitol until 1962 is very important. This fact is not used often enough in arguments. Obviously the raising of the flag was meant to symboli e an objection to the Civil Rights Movement....this proves that the rebel flag is used as a symbol of hate and not hertiage as is so often argued. When the government of South Carolina chose to raise the flag in 1962 it was in protest against school segr gation and equality and civil rights for everyone...that is a point that needs to be made more often. If the flag had been there since the 1860s I would still agree with J.C. but the fact that it was not makes it much harder for the ignorant to make an a guement. Thank you.


Jon - 05/30/00 16:21:04
My Email:Luxor1786@aol.com
Ethnicity: irish, italian, im white =-)
Country: U.S.
State: Massachusetts
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Well im in school right now and we're doing research on this topic, and we're debating about this topic and others. I agree that it should be banned and outlawed, its wrong and does represent hate and white supremacy...Well I think your page is kool, and 'm recommending it to my fellow classmates.


FRED SIEBER - 05/29/00 13:08:22
My Email:sieber72@konnect.net
Ethnicity: MARINE!!!
Country: USA
State: all 50!
How did you find our page?: one sided
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I FIND YOUR PAGE TOTALLY ONE SIDED. FOR ONE WHO PREACHES ABOUT FREEDOM, YOU DONT SHOW IT. I AM A U.S. MARINE AND LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT FREEDOM...UNTIL YOU CAN STAND BY AND RESPECT THE OTHER SIDE OF ANY ISSUE THAT INSULTS YOU THE MOST (RECOGNIZING THAT I IS THE OTHER PERSON'S RIGHT TO DEMONSTRATE THEIR BELIEFS) THEN YOU HAVE NO UNDERSTANDING OF FREEDOM. HAVE YOU EVER BLED FOR OUR FREEDOM? I HAVE.


Austin - 05/28/00 03:19:34
My Email:Gopimlcp@AOL.com
Ethnicity: White
Country: US
State: Texas
How did you find our page?: very carefully
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The Confederate battle flag will be seen in many places both public and private for a long time to come. That is a given, but it does make many angry and I can definatly see how maybe local governments shouldn't be supportive in this area. However, I know that the biggest arguement to the defending side is Heritage, and heritage is does not allways mean hate when it comes to the south.... My personal views are keep it flying, succeed again, fight if we have to, Pride Not Prejudice.... PLEASE READ THIS STORY....... THANK YOU AUSTIN... My Thanks to A Black Hero! Subtitled: Good ol' Southern Boys. Contributed by "Josie" CSA HISTORY. Thanks Josie for this "Wonderful Story" -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Seige of Fire Base Alpha! The day was sunny; the wife had went the day before to visit her sister in Pensacola,Florida so I headed east toward Destin, stopping at a popular Greasy Spoon. Taking a booth in the rear, I ordered a fat roll and coffee. The place, as usual was crow ed, this early in the morning. Seating being scarce, I was approached by a Large Barrel Chested Negro Gentleman. May I share your table sir, he ask? Certainly, have a seat! He joined me and ordered a breakfast of Eggs & Ham. We began with small talk, nothing serious! Then he spoke up, since we were at ease. Seen you around from time to time; you from Destin? No, Fort Walton Beach, I said! Couldn't help but notice your ball cap with the Big Rebel Flag. Thinking I was about to get jumped all over by a huge black man about my flag, I kept silent. He seeing my discomfort, gave a big smile! Don't worry, it ain't about a flag protest. The subject o the NAACP flag boycott in South Carolina was all over the news. If your not in any hurry, I'd like to tell you a story. Please do, I indicated! My name is Willie Black, he said; I am a Vietnam Veteran. In the late sixties I was part of a company of men operating out of Da Nang. On this particular day we were dropped off by choppers at the edge of the jungle near the Cambodian, North Vietname e border. We were to attempt to intercept supplies heading down the Ho Chi Minh trail. That job turned out to be about as effective as shooting fleas with a howitzer. Move a lot of dirt, but very few fleas get killed! After patrolling a couple of days we ran into a nest of Vietcong. A bloody hatchet job it was; Heavy losses on both sides. Somehow I found myself separated from my company and covered with shrapnel wounds. Loosing blood and getting weaker by the moment. Hiding in the bush and moving only in short cautious advances, I soon totally lost my way. I must have roamed in a daze for what seemed like several days or more. Death stalking me with every step! There was no way I'd get out of this jungle alive. If I could only make it to our lines! By this time I had no idea which way I was going, or where to find my company. The occasional chatter of automatic weapons fire in the distance told me that Char ie wasn't far behind. My eyes were looking through sweat, mud and blood at a daze. Then I came upon what seemed like a clearing, so I scanned the area. I wasn't about to go charging across an open field, but I seemed to have no other option. I neede help desperately , or I'd die out here. Maybe my hope lay across that open space? Then as I came to the edge of the jungle and took a better look across the clearing, I couldn't believe my eyes. This was totally out of time and place! A fire base, bui t like a fortress out of dirt bags, rock and anything else the terrain had to offer. High overhead flew the "Confederate Battle Flag"! I started across the field, hope against hope, I wouldn't get shot after coming this far. Then I heard commotion inside, as the two soldiers started toward me, slinging their rifles over their back, and then I knew I was home free. Then and there, I thought to myself, I don't care what ol' Abe Lincoln said, that Southern flag was the prettiest site I ever did see. I never questioned what it was doing in a clearing, in the jungles of Vietnam, flying over a fire base. I'd have kissed it with my last b eath! Inside I found the place manned with about three dozen troops, White Southern Boys, and they all sounded like it too. They worked desperately to patch me up and feed me until it would be safe for a chopper to lift me out.